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[Announce] iPeng 1.2.5 now on the App Store
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pippin
2010-08-04 23:27:49 UTC
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After a period of silence there is now a new iPeng update on the App
Store - 1.2.5

I call it the "iOS4" update since one of it's drivers was to provide
full compatibility with iOS4 including multitasking support. But then
this name is a bit inaccurate since
• iPeng 1.2.5 actually runs on any iPhone OS device from 3.0 on, not
only on iOS4
• There's more than just iOS4 support in this update

SO WHAT IS IT ABOUT?

Let's group this into "what's new", "what's improved" and "what got
fixed":

WHAT'S NEW?

• iOS4 support. iPeng now makes use of fast App Switching and
Multitasking. This means if you leave iPeng and come back later it will
still be in the exact same place where you left. iPeng does NOT run in
the background, this would eat up too much power, but it does continue
synchronizing the cache from the server until that's done.
• Landscape Mode. iPeng now supports both portrait and Landscape modes.
The NowPlaying screen in Landscape mode will now provide a screen-saver
like full screen view. Some spill over from some other development
we're working on ;)
• High-Res graphics. iPeng now uses full-scale graphics on NowPlaying
and bigger cover art thumbnails on iPhone 4 (and iPad). Actually the
"and iPad" part for the thumbs doesn't work right now but I will upload
an 1.2.5.1 update shortly that will fix this.
• Accessibility. iPeng now fully supports VoiceOver (iPhone from 3GS,
iPod touch from 3rd generation and iPad only) making it probably the
most powerful Squeezebox remote control solution for people with visual
disabilities. This sounds like "what's this good for?" for a lot of
people but actually it's a biggie. First: It's not as simple as Apple
claims and second: it's really, really helpful for blind people compare
to iPeng's last release but especially to most other means of remote
control
• Localization. iPeng is now fully localized in English, German and
Danish languages and provides enhanced support for many other
languages, too. More to come.

WHAT'S IMPROVED?
• Improved Player and Music Source handling. iPeng will now find your
player automatically in even more cases and also switch Music Sources
if required. This is especially important if you switch Music Sources a
lot and don't find your player then. Now iPeng usually will find it for
you. Also: iPeng is ow able to reconnect "lost" players as long as they
are still on the network, a big improvement especially for users of the
SB Receiver.
• Even more enhanced Squeezebox feature and plugin support with
additional search and context menu functionality. "Global Search" is
now supported through "Extras" and also through additional context
menus on the NowPlaying Context Menu.
• Enhanced Server configuration support. iPeng now allows you to change
your MySqueezebox.com account and has improved support for Wake-On-LAN
(WOL). WOL can now be activated manually, you can define more than one
WOL address and iPeng autodetects your server's MAC for convenience.

WHAT GOT FIXED?
• Several issues with iOS4 and Squeezebox Server on the Squeezebox
Touch are fixed in this release:
• Alarms do work now in iOS4
• Drag&Drop now works in iOS4. This one was the technical biggie. Apple
made a change in iOS4 that effectively means you can no longer update a
view in the background when using D&D. Which is kind of a problem if
the data you show is permanently being updated from an external server
and can stop to make any sense if it's not.

SO WAIT A MOMENT, WHAT HAPPENED TO IPAD AND PLAYBACK?

Now, playback has eaten up a lot of time and resources here and still
doesn't work correctly, I'm sorry for that.
Actually since it DOES take so much effort I decided a while back to
focus on iPad first. So the next thing you are going to see is not an
iPeng with Playback but iPeng for iPad.

DOES THIS MEAN PLAYBACK IS DEAD?

Not it's not, but it's delayed. We are pursuing some alternative
options to integrate it that might speed things up but as it stands
right now, iPeng for iPad will come first.

But for now: Have fun with iPeng 1.2.5!

More images and the online manual are to be found here:
http://penguinlovesmusic.de

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pippin
2010-08-05 00:30:03 UTC
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Ah, there's one feature I forgot to mention:

A lot of people asked for a way to keep iPeng running to be immediately
available when picked up while shutting off the screen to save power.

Now the issue is that iPhone doesn't let any App control the screen or
the screen saver. I can disable the screen saver but then the screen
will stay on forever.

The one workaround I found (iPhone only) is now implemented whenever
you enable "Prevent Standby" in iPeng: It will use the proximity sensor
to turn the screen off. This way, if you put the iPhone on the table
with the screen facing downwards you get exactly this behavior.
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jstraw
2010-08-05 03:51:31 UTC
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I was really hoping the next revision would do something to provide
larger text, especially for long titles where text gets TINY.

It was the one improvement that I was really counting on. I can't seem
to find any change in this regard.
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mortslim
2010-08-05 04:32:57 UTC
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Good update !
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pippin
2010-08-05 06:34:20 UTC
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On my iPod Touch this is a very buggy mode. The overlays and controls
mostly don't appear without lots of frantic tapping
? The overlay is ON by default and tapping the cover should toggle it.
This works without ANY exceptions and immediately for me.
What kind of device (generation) and OS is this?
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erland
2010-08-05 04:48:24 UTC
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Post by pippin
• High-Res graphics. iPeng now uses full-scale graphics on NowPlaying
and bigger cover art thumbnails on iPhone 4 (and iPad). Actually the
"and iPad" part for the thumbs doesn't work right now but I will upload
an 1.2.5.1 update shortly that will fix this.
Probably great for iPhone 4 users and also for iPad users when Apple
decides to release iOS4 for iPad. However, for current iPad users I
have to say that the low resolution text still is too distracting to me
in 2x mode. However, this isn't really your fault, I realize that it
will soon be solved with the new iPad app or a iOS4 release by Apple,
which ever comes first.

In the meantime, I use the excellent SqueezePad app on the iPad and
keep use iPeng on the iPhone and iPod Touch.
Post by pippin
• Even more enhanced Squeezebox feature and plugin support with
additional search and context menu functionality. "Global Search" is
now supported through "Extras" and also through additional context
menus on the NowPlaying Context Menu.
I love it and it's even better now that Triode has added global search
support in the Spotify plugin.

By the way, opening the context menu from a year gives me a "Bad
dispatch" error
Post by pippin
So the next thing you are going to see is not an iPeng with Playback
but iPeng for iPad.
Very exciting, correct prioritization IMHO.
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dborod
2010-08-05 05:27:51 UTC
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Post by pippin
SO WAIT A MOMENT, WHAT HAPPENED TO IPAD AND PLAYBACK?
Now, playback has eaten up a lot of time and resources here and still
doesn't work correctly, I'm sorry for that.
Actually since it DOES take so much effort I decided a while back to
focus on iPad first. So the next thing you are going to see is not an
iPeng with Playback but iPeng for iPad.
You can achieve mp3 playback on an iOS4 device that supports
multi-tasking by going to Safari, entering the URL of your stream
(http://mysqueezeboxserver:9000/stream.mp3) and then going back to
iPeng to manage the music.

It's not perfect, but it works when you want to stream some music to
your phone.
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Rick B.
2010-08-05 11:55:37 UTC
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Post by pippin
Now, playback has eaten up a lot of time and resources here and still
doesn't work correctly, I'm sorry for that.
Actually since it DOES take so much effort I decided a while back to
focus on iPad first. So the next thing you are going to see is not an
iPeng with Playback but iPeng for iPad.
I'm disappointed, but I understand. I specifically bought an iPod Touch
last December because iPeng playback was "just around the corner". I
also want iPeng for iPad, but I think this time I'll wait until iPeng
for iPad is released before I buy the iPad. :)
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m1abrams
2010-08-05 13:23:47 UTC
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Some of the graphics have missed the Hi-Res treatment it seems.

The slider bars are the most notably ones, however it appears some of
the transport controls might not have been updated either such as the
jaggies on the play button.

One thing I noticed in my short usage of it last night is that if I was
using it with my Touch player selected and I stop using the app for
awhile (i.e. switch to a different app), When I switch back to iPeng
it does a weird thing with cycling through all of my devices and NEVER
comes back to the device I was last using. This is a pretty annoying.
Note running on an iphone 4 with iOS 4.0.1

Note as I write this one thing I did not do after installing the update
is reboot my iphone, which I have noticed is sometimes a needed thing
after installing new apps. So I will try to reproduce it again
tonight.
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pippin
2010-08-05 13:52:10 UTC
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Post by m1abrams
Some of the graphics have missed the Hi-Res treatment it seems.
A lot. Do you have any idea how much work that graphics stuff is? I can
write whole Apps in the time it takes to scale this stuff.
Post by m1abrams
The slider bars are the most notably ones, however it appears some of
the transport controls might not have been updated either such as the
jaggies on the play button.
The only stuff that DID get updated is:
- Cover Art
- MultiPlayer screen (background, player icons)
- Penguin
Post by m1abrams
One thing I noticed in my short usage of it last night is that if I was
using it with my Touch player selected and I stop using the app for
awhile (i.e. switch to a different app), When I switch back to iPeng
it does a weird thing with cycling through all of my devices and NEVER
comes back to the device I was last using. This is a pretty annoying.
Note running on an iphone 4 with iOS 4.0.1
Jep. Known issue already mentioned in the service thread. Will get a
quick fix.
The problem is a mechanism introduced for lost players that
automatically drops a player if it hasn't been seen for more than two
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m1abrams
2010-08-05 14:06:05 UTC
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I know graphics work is a PITA!

However the sliders are the most noticeable low-res ones in the app so
my eye went straight to them when I saw it.
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pippin
2010-08-05 14:25:52 UTC
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Post by m1abrams
I know graphics work is a PITA!
However the sliders are the most noticeable low-res ones in the app so
my eye went straight to them when I saw it.
Yep. That's because it's already scaled-up in the normal version.
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plympton
2010-08-05 15:34:24 UTC
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Pippin,

Interesting update - got it last night, but was tired and the new stuff
kinda overwhelmed! I noticed a few quirks (like a context menu
appearing when I hit the back-arrow button to get to the config screen,
but I can't reproduce it). Like I said, I was tired. :-)

Bug: When launched for the first time (no backgrounding), a player
using the IRBlaster plugin for volume control, the Up and Down arrows
don't appear until you interact with the player's group (or single
player - just checked). Once it's loaded, the arrows appear to stay
there.

Good work, too, btw!

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Jeff Flowerday
2010-08-05 16:05:05 UTC
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Is higher res art automatic on iPhone 4 or do I have to turn it on?
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pippin
2010-08-05 16:24:27 UTC
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Post by Jeff Flowerday
Is higher res art automatic on iPhone 4 or do I have to turn it on?
It's automatic. Not everything is scaled (see above).
On Cover Art you will now notice how low-res your artwork is. After
all, even the high-res artwork from iTunes (600x600) will not even
needs to be scaled up on the portrait NowPlaying screen not to mention
the landscape one if you use big artwork, how much artwork do you have
in 960x960? ;)
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2010-08-05 18:24:27 UTC
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The option 'Bild in voller Höhe' doesn't have any effect anymore.
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2010-08-05 20:03:44 UTC
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Thanks for the update. Generally great, as is iPeng... however the
changing player when you pop in and out of iPeng makes using it
difficult- I keep on making the Radio in the bedroom play inappropriate
music... any idea on when a fix will be ready?

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Jeff Flowerday
2010-08-05 21:00:10 UTC
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So does caching happen on a need by need basis now? When I first visit
an artist all the art for that artist will then get cached and
resused?

Before did it cache all art prior, as it used to bring up a pop up
saying it was syncronizing the cache?
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plympton
2010-08-05 21:48:07 UTC
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Quick question: Any reason you go rid of the fancy player icons and now
have fairly generic ones? Wondering if it's a copyright thing, or
design choice. (I like the old better :-))

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Daverz
2010-08-05 22:17:39 UTC
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"NowPlaying on Play" still doesn't work for my playlists.
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pippin
2010-08-05 23:33:39 UTC
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Post by bluegaspode
The option 'Bild in voller Höhe' doesn't have any effect anymore.
Oh yes it has. But only in Landscape mode. Which of course leaves it
named inappropriately but since I have translations in five languages
for "Bild in voller Höhe" I'll leave it, after all it's still full
height even if you can't see it :)
Did you use that? I thought I was the only one....
Post by bluegaspode
Thanks for the update. Generally great, as is iPeng... however the
changing player when you pop in and out of iPeng makes using it
difficult- I keep on making the Radio in the bedroom play inappropriate
music... any idea on when a fix will be ready?
I do have a fix and will send it to Apple as of end of business
tomorrow.
Post by bluegaspode
So does caching happen on a need by need basis now? When I first visit
an artist all the art for that artist will then get cached and
resused?
Before did it cache all art prior, as it used to bring up a pop up
saying it was syncronizing the cache?
No. The artwork caching is the same as before; It will cache the first
450 artwork thumbs automatically and all others as they are requested
the first time.
Post by bluegaspode
Quick question: Any reason you go rid of the fancy player icons and now
have fairly generic ones? Wondering if it's a copyright thing, or
design choice. (I like the old better :-))
Actually I got a lot of complaints about the old ones being ugly so
since I had to have new ones created anyway for the high resolution on
iPhone 4 I got them changed.
Post by bluegaspode
"NowPlaying on Play" still doesn't work for my playlists.
Did you file a ticket on this?
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plympton
2010-08-05 23:39:44 UTC
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Post by pippin
Actually I got a lot of complaints about the old ones being ugly so
since I had to have new ones created anyway for the high resolution on
iPhone 4 I got them changed.
Guess you can't please everyone.. or anyone! :-)
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2010-08-06 00:24:45 UTC
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Hi,

When I close and reopen iPeng the MAC address of my machine becomes
XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX and WOL doesn't work. Is there a way to make iPeng
remember the MAC address?
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2010-08-06 00:37:47 UTC
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Hi,
When I close and reopen iPeng the MAC address of my machine becomes
XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX and WOL doesn't work. Is there a way to make iPeng
remember the MAC address?
I've heard this before.
It's hard to reproduce, meaning trying it several times seems to do the
trick.

I suspect that it has to do with selecting the default MAC, that would
clearly be a bug and in this case you could work around it by:
0. Write down your server's MAC address
1. Shut down your server
2. Add your server's IP address manually under "Settings->iPeng
settings->Add Server"
3. Set the MAC for this server.

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therealrocket
2010-08-06 04:22:14 UTC
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Post by pippin
I've heard this before.
It's hard to reproduce, meaning trying it several times seems to do the
trick.
I suspect that it has to do with selecting the default MAC, that would
0. Write down your server's MAC address
1. Shut down your server
2. Add your server's IP address manually under "Settings->iPeng
settings->Add Server"
3. Set the MAC for this server.
I'll test this and include it in the update to be provided tomorrow.
Hi pippin,

Amazingly quick response! Thanks!

I'm pretty sure I caused it. Here's what I did:
1. Opened iPeng and played around with squeezebox server
2. Shut down the squeezebox server PC, while leaving iPeng open.
3. Tried to use iPeng after the server was shut down; WOL worked. (good
thing :) )
4. Closed and reopened iPeng; observed the server disappeared from
iPeng. This might be a bug: I was expecting it to remember. :(
5. Added the server's IP manually under "Settings->iPeng settings->Add
Server" (but did not populate the MAC address - I should have done
this, that's my mistake!)
6. Observed that WOL would not work with the manually added IP - even
after switching the server PC on and off again, it didn't save the MAC
address into the manual entry. :(

So it seems that:
* Automatically detected servers aren't preserved between closing and
opening iPeng
* Manually added servers don't get their MAC addresses updated.

This is iPhone OS 3.1.2 (I have a 3g :) )

I haven't tested yet, but I'm pretty certain manually adding the server
will work around the problem. I'll let you know.
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Daverz
2010-08-06 01:17:34 UTC
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Post by pippin
Did you file a ticket on this?
Filed as Ticket #243.
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Jeff Flowerday
2010-08-06 02:03:24 UTC
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Would it be too much to add an option in the configuration to clear and
repopulate the entire cache? I have a 7000 plus album library and
would like the art completely cached for when I'm in 3G land.

I use iPeng for reference when shopping and the uncached art is a
little too slow loading via 3G. The library is too large to scroll
through slowly on wifi to get the art to cache.

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pippin
2010-08-06 03:07:48 UTC
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Filed as 'Ticket #243'
(https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/ticket/243#preview).
Didn't know these are Custom Browse.
Have you set the playlist menu type to "Album" (don't ask me how)?
Do you get a Track menu (with iPeng's "Play Shuffled/Play All" items?
Or do you have to play the tracks through the context menu?
Would it be too much to add an option in the configuration to clear and
repopulate the entire cache? I have a 7000 plus album library and
would like the art completely cached for when I'm in 3G land.
I use iPeng for reference when shopping and the uncached art is a
little too slow loading via 3G. The library is too large to scroll
through slowly on wifi to get the art to cache.
Puh. I'll have to see. There's an open ticket for that, I believe.
Generally that's a tradeoff. I believe one of my most important issues
is still people with slow servers having lots of trouble to provide the
artwork in time.

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Jeff Flowerday
2010-08-06 04:20:01 UTC
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Puh. I'll have to see. There's an open ticket for that, I believe.
Generally that's a tradeoff. I believe one of my most important issues
is still people with slow servers having lots of trouble to provide the
artwork in time.
Also, the artwork is not _that_ much data, I use it over 3G a lot.
It's liveable over 3G but it would be nice if it was already cached. I
have a need for speed. My server definately isn't an issue, I'm runnin
a Core 2 Quad @ 3.25 GHZ/4GB Ram/4 1 TB Blacks in a Raid 10, 64 bit
Windows Server 2008 R2. Actual FLAC files are on an external Raid 0
enclosure. All the server does is host a couple very low traffic
websites and squeeze center.
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Daverz
2010-08-06 08:04:43 UTC
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Didn't know these are Custom Browse.
It's the default "Artist" menu that comes with Custom Browse. You
should be able to test this out yourself if you have Custom Browse
installed.
Post by pippin
Have you set the playlist menu type to "Album" (don't ask me how)?
Do you mean the "Playlists" menu? No, I don't think so.
Post by pippin
Do you get a Track menu (with iPeng's "Play Shuffled/Play All" items?
Yes, and tapping the first item plays all tracks, but it just doesn't
switch to the NowPlaying menu.
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bluegaspode
2010-08-06 06:37:37 UTC
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Did you use that? I thought I was the only one....
Um - it was the default for iPeng, I left it that way and now wondered,
why cover art looks different on the main screen.

As I'm not using iPeng much ;) I don't care, just wanted to let you
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hvb83
2010-08-06 07:37:06 UTC
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Nice update Pippin, thank you for your hard work! Looking forward to the
iPad-version already!

Also, please let me know if you would like to add a Dutch language
pack. In that case I could provide the translation.
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gellie
2010-08-06 22:21:57 UTC
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I must add the album art resolution is a bit underwhelming on the iPad
in 2x. Way to much distortion.
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Jeff Flowerday
2010-08-06 22:27:31 UTC
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I must add the album art resolution is a bit underwhelming on the iPad
in 2x. Way to much distortion.
iPeng isn't an iPad app. iPad is getting it's own application.
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pippin
2010-08-06 22:55:50 UTC
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I must add the album art resolution is a bit underwhelming on the iPad
in 2x. Way to much distortion.
Are you talking thumbs? That's a bug and will be fixed in the update
I'm going to submit, well, in a few minutes,

Or are you talking about the big cover on NowPlaying? THIS is purely a
lack on the side of your artwork, iPeng displays that with full
resolution on iPad. So if your artwork is 300x300, sorry, but there's
nothing iPeng can do about that :D

@Jeff: iPeng is not an iPad app but images are shown with full
resolution on iPad if you use them correctly in an iPhone app. While
this is not always applicable it should work for cover art in iPeng but
I handled it the wrong way for the thumbs (which works on iPhone 4 but
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2010-08-06 22:58:23 UTC
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Filed as 'Ticket #243'
(https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/ticket/243#preview).
It turns out that this actually INTENTIONAL behavior of CustomBrowse.
This is a plugin-generated menu and it doesn't specify a switch to
NowPlaying. I remember Erland did this on purpose for some reason back
in those days...
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Rodrigo
2010-08-07 11:26:48 UTC
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ItŽs a strange behavior, but ipeng is crashing as soon as it shows a
specific artwork. I still havenŽt found another one that has the same
result.
Anyway, this is my first post. Great app!

Thanks,
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Daverz
2010-08-08 00:57:00 UTC
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It turns out that this actually INTENTIONAL behavior of CustomBrowse.
This is a plugin-generated menu and it doesn't specify a switch to
NowPlaying. I remember Erland did this on purpose for some reason back
in those days...
Maybe it can be changed in the menu definition?
I don't see any setting for it, but then some parts of Custom Browse
seem somewhat opaque to me. I guess I'll take this up with Erland.
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Aesculus
2010-08-08 04:33:37 UTC
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There is a new version of the DenonAvpControl 1.6 that supports iPeng
1.2.5. The big feature is that you can once again set the player volume
at 100% for digital passthrough and use iPeng and the DenonAvpControl
plugin to completly keep everything in the digital domain.

For those with networked Denon amplifiers:
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gomichaelkgo
2010-08-22 22:33:36 UTC
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Hello,

I use IR Blaster to control my amp. I have the volume fixed at 100%.
I can control the volume just fine with my IR remote and the web
interface (motorized knob on amp moves up AND down). However, with
iPeng, I can no longer control the volume with the UI buttons. It
remains as a slider but not able to be changed, it's fixed at zero
volume. Pressing the ringer/earpiece volume up on the iPhone makes the
volume increase, but pressing the volume down has no effect. The only
thing that happens when I press the volume down is the iPhone UI shows
the ringer volume decreasing. What is the reason for this?
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2010-08-22 23:37:56 UTC
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Hello,
I use IR Blaster to control my amp. I have the volume fixed at 100%.
I can control the volume just fine with my IR remote and the web
interface (motorized knob on amp moves up AND down). However, with
iPeng, I can no longer control the volume with the UI buttons. It
remains as a slider but not able to be changed, it's fixed at zero
volume. Pressing the ringer/earpiece volume up on the iPhone makes the
volume increase, but pressing the volume down has no effect. The only
thing that happens when I press the volume down is the iPhone UI shows
the ringer volume decreasing. What is the reason for this?
Please make sure you use the latest version of IRBlaster.
IRBlaster volume control is now only supported together with a recent
IRBlaster plugin version since the old support caused too much trouble
for people NOT using IRBlaster.

There has been a change in the way iPeng detects the use of IRBlaster.
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rbz5416
2010-08-23 20:52:48 UTC
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Any sign of 1.3 on the horizon? Especially in regard to making the iPod
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Any sign of 1.3 on the horizon? Especially in regard to making the iPod
a player.
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kesey
2010-08-24 12:23:52 UTC
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As I said on penguinlovesmusic.com: iPad will come first. Sorry :(
Glad to hear that. My iPad is also very happy
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pippin
2010-08-29 22:55:28 UTC
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Since today a new iPeng version - 1.2.7 is available on the App Store.

iPeng 1.2.7, along with an earlier 1.2.5.1 update, is mainly a bugfix
release that also brings some minor improvements over 1.2.5:

* Easier discrimination between „On/Off“ states for Squeezeboxes
and between the active and non-active players
* Dutch translation
* iPeng should no longer lose the connection to the server when
waking up from the background
* Other improvements and fixes around WOL, caching and the display
of very large covers, Global Search, some context menus and for moving
players to MySqueezebox.com

* iPeng will no longer switch the active player when becoming
active from the background
* Cover art thumbs now also show in full resolution on iPad
* Proximity sensor support with “Prevent Standby” no longer
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erland
2010-08-08 08:27:24 UTC
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Really? So the Custom Browse generated playlist generated in a
different way from any other playlist? Odd way of doing things.
I don't see any setting for NowPlaying, but then some parts of Custom
Browse seem somewhat opaque to me. I guess I'll take this up with
Erland.
If this is about that Custom Browse show track details when you click a
track instead of start playing it. The issue is just that Custom Browse
still have the old behavior and I haven't had the time to change it to
the new touch=play behavior that 7.4 and later releases uses.

What I've said is that some people may not want to have the touch=play
behavior so I'd like to make this configurable in Custom Browse but I
haven't had the time to implement that change yet so currently Custom
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Daverz
2010-08-08 08:40:48 UTC
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If this is about that Custom Browse show track details when you click a
track instead of start playing it.
It starts play, it just doesn't switch to NowPlaying. I have the last
level of my menu set to tag type "Playlist". So it when I choose
something on the last level, I get the same playlist screen you'd get
if you chose an album or a saved playlist. Clicking on the first entry
in the playlist starts play, but does not switch to NowPlaying. Menu
structure attached.


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pippin
2010-08-07 13:51:36 UTC
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Could you send me that artwork?
Is it BMP? BMP is not supported by Squeezebox Server and can lead to
all kings of strange results.

Are the tags you see in iPeng different from the ones you see in the
Web interface? Have you flushed the cache (Settings->iPeng Settings->
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Rodrigo
2010-08-07 20:33:26 UTC
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The file is a jpg image. The original has more than 1 mb. Can this be
the problem?
Anyway, itŽs attached.
The other one I solved changing some settings in web interface, like
autor by band, etc.

Thanks for the fast response,
Rodrigo.


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2010-08-08 19:14:18 UTC
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The file is a jpg image. The original has more than 1 mb. Can this be
the problem?
Anyway, itŽs attached.
The other one I solved changing some settings in web interface, like
autor by band, etc.
Thanks for the fast response,
Rodrigo.
Well, I think I didnŽt really solved my problems. IŽve been playing
around with some configurations and what I think is happening is that
after I update some tags the older ones still keep showing in Ipeng.
About cover art, Ipeng sometimes does not crash when showing that
specific image, but it lags as hell.
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RBM
2010-08-08 19:31:25 UTC
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Have you tried saving the image to something like 600x600 px and save it
at 72 dpi - just to see if it makes any difference?

As for the the new tags not showing: have you tried flushing iPeng's
cache yet? (Settings > iPeng Setting > Flush Cache (big red button))?
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Rodrigo
2010-08-08 19:47:57 UTC
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All album arts are named "folder". IŽll try changing the pics as you
sugested. Then iŽll post any result.
I already flushed it. Ipeng shows the new tags, but also the old ones.
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pippin
2010-08-08 07:47:01 UTC
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Really? So the Custom Browse generated playlist generated in a
different way from any other playlist? Odd way of doing things.
I don't see any setting for NowPlaying, but then some parts of Custom
Browse seem somewhat opaque to me. I guess I'll take this up with
Erland.
It doesn't generate a playlist but a menu. This menu has action for the
entries and in this case they don't include the parameter to switch to
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2010-08-08 09:03:20 UTC
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If this is about that Custom Browse show track details when you click a
track instead of start playing it. The issue is just that Custom Browse
still have the old behavior and I haven't had the time to change it to
the new touch=play behavior that 7.4 and later releases uses.
What I've said is that some people may not want to have the touch=play
behavior so I'd like to make this configurable in Custom Browse but I
haven't had the time to implement that change yet so currently Custom
Browse always shows track details.
No, it's about not having a "nextWindow => NowPlaying" parameter in the
play/go command.
I seem to remember some discussion a year ago or so where you said it's
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2010-08-08 14:45:59 UTC
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No, it's about not having a "nextWindow => NowPlaying" parameter in the
play/go command.
I seem to remember some discussion a year ago or so where you said it's
on purpose because it's also old behavior or many people prefer it that
way or something.
Ok, I trust you because you usually have better memory than me, however
I have to say that Custom Browse current behavior feels a bit stupid.
I think a future version of Custom Browse will switch to use the
standard behavior unless there is some technical issue that makes that
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2010-08-08 20:07:48 UTC
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All album arts are named "folder". IŽll try changing the pics as you
sugested. Then iŽll post any result.
I already flushed it. Ipeng shows the new tags, but also the old ones.
Again: what do you see in the web interface.
I'm pretty sure the tag issue is a Squuezebox server issue, not an
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Rodrigo
2010-08-08 20:22:33 UTC
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I was rescanning the library, with no results.
Now I changed some settings on my music tab, in advanced setting, and,
after clicking apply, it automaticaly rescaned. I waited till is was
over and the old tags have been eliminated from ipeng and web
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bluegaspode
2010-08-09 22:41:42 UTC
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Is anyone else having issues with MySqueezeBox.com and iPeng ?

Players on MySB.com are not shown for me anymore.
If I press the right arrow to see the config screen I get an endless
circle.

Tried to remove the 'Player'-player on MySqueezebox.com as well, but
iPeng doesn't ask for the credentials again after restarting (and
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2010-08-10 00:40:36 UTC
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I can't seem to find the wake on lan setting in ipeng .

I dont see it in settings.
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2010-08-10 07:37:13 UTC
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Is anyone else having issues with MySqueezeBox.com and iPeng ?
Players on MySB.com are not shown for me anymore.
If I press the right arrow to see the config screen I get an endless
circle.
Tried to remove the 'Player'-player on MySqueezebox.com as well, but
iPeng doesn't ask for the credentials again after restarting (and
reinstalling).
You must not delete that player item or you lose your account binding.
That said: the config screen should allow you to re-set your
configuration.
You need to select MySB as a server, first to get the blue "settings"
disclosure.
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I can't seem to find the wake on lan setting in ipeng .
I dont see it in settings.
It's a details disclosure (blue arrow) on the server itself now, on the
MultiPlayer screen. You can mow set different WOL addresses for
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VirusKiller
2010-08-10 08:41:45 UTC
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I found an issue with 1.2.5 last night.

Two Squeezeboxes were active.
I selected the Squeezebox in my bedroom.
I added an album to its playlist (it played).
I turned off my iPhone's display (top button).
I turned on the iPhone and swiped in - iPeng was still the active App,
of course.
I selected some different music assuming that the active player was the
same, but I found that the active player had changed to the Squeezebox
in my Living Room. SWMBO was not pleased!

BTW, it would be really useful to be able to "lock" the active
Squeezebox.

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Ikabob
2010-08-10 10:24:52 UTC
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MusicMonkey
2010-08-10 17:49:20 UTC
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I also experienced a problem similar to the one mentioned above
regarding adding tracks to a playlist and seeing them appear on a
different squeezebox squeezebox player.

I described the issue I experienced in a different thread in this forum
entitled: "iPeng 1.2.5 Your Player Was Not Found?"
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pippin
2010-08-10 21:16:36 UTC
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As said before: this is a known issue and has been fixed in the version
of iPeng that I submitted to Apple last Friday.

The problem is that iPeng deletes all players it hasn't seen for two
minutes and then re-creates them which leaves it with the first one
coming up as the active one.
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millerlitescott
2010-08-10 21:52:44 UTC
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I downloaded iPeng last night and got it working on my SB Touch using an
iTouch. I only used it for a little bit but so far it is the coolest
thing. Thank you pippen!!

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VirusKiller
2010-08-11 10:13:52 UTC
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Post by pippin
As said before: this is a known issue and has been fixed in the version
of iPeng that I submitted to Apple last Friday.
The problem is that iPeng deletes all players it hasn't seen for two
minutes and then re-creates them which leaves it with the first one
coming up as the active one. Apologies if I missed that earlier in the thread. Thanks for the fix -
I look forward to it!
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Rodrigo
2010-08-12 01:07:19 UTC
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IŽm having a problem I canŽt affirm itŽs due to this version of Ipeng.
Today, I configured squeezebox to a wireless connection and now,
everytime I change ipeng to my own music server or mysqueezebox.com,
the squeezebox receiver stops being recognized as a client. The problem
can be solved removing and putting back the power chord, but thatŽs not
the ideal one. IŽm quite sure something like that was happening via a
wired one too.

Thanks,
Rodrigo.
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2010-08-12 07:29:30 UTC
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Post by Rodrigo
IŽm having a problem I canŽt affirm itŽs due to this version of Ipeng.
Today, I configured squeezebox to a wireless connection and now,
everytime I change ipeng to my own music server or mysqueezebox.com,
the squeezebox receiver stops being recognized as a client. The problem
can be solved removing and putting back the power chord, but thatŽs not
the ideal one. IŽm quite sure something like that was happening via a
wired one too.
Thanks,
Rodrigo.
Did you use Net::UDAP to configure it? There seems to be an issue that
sometimes settings are not being stored correctly that way WRT the
server settings. I believe the reason is that some settings require a
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RBM
2010-08-12 08:09:22 UTC
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Does the receiver show a blue light? Try giving it a fixed IP instead of
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Rodrigo
2010-08-12 10:43:28 UTC
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Post by pippin
Did you use Net::UDAP to configure it? There seems to be an issue that
sometimes settings are not being stored correctly that way WRT the
server settings. I believe the reason is that some settings require a
reset to become active or something.
Yes. So the only way to solve this problem is ti configure it with an
original controller?
Post by pippin
Does the receiver show a blue light? Try giving it a fixed IP instead of
using DHCP.
No, it keeps the white light.

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pippin
2010-08-12 11:26:06 UTC
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Post by Rodrigo
No, it keeps the white light.
Ah. I've seen that, too (not iPeng related; when shutting down a
server). This means it sticks with the old server.
That's probably one of the conditions that require a reboot.

I don't fully understand how that works inside the Receiver.
iPeng does one of two things:
1. If your player is connected to a server, it directs the SERVER to
move the player to MySqueezebox.com (if the player is on
MySqueezebox.com it directs MySB to drop it which is the only thing
MySB can do; the player will then have to find the server on it's
own).
2. If your player is disconnected (blue light) it directs the PLAYER to
connect to a specific server using UDAP. It also registers the player
for MySB and your active account if MySB is the target.
I could try to mimic that latter behavior in case 1, too (that's what
the Controller does) but that has the drawback of changing your
player's account in case you use more than one and I don't really see
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Rodrigo
2010-08-12 11:45:54 UTC
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Post by pippin
Ah. I've seen that, too (not iPeng related; when shutting down a
server). This means it sticks with the old server.
That's probably one of the conditions that require a reboot.
I don't fully understand how that works inside the Receiver.
1. If your player is connected to a server, it directs the SERVER to
move the player to MySqueezebox.com (if the player is on
MySqueezebox.com it directs MySB to drop it which is the only thing
MySB can do; the player will then have to find the server on it's
own).
2. If your player is disconnected (blue light) it directs the PLAYER to
connect to a specific server using UDAP. It also registers the player
for MySB and your active account if MySB is the target.
I could try to mimic that latter behavior in case 1, too (that's what
the Controller does) but that has the drawback of changing your
player's account in case you use more than one and I don't really see
how this can have an effect in this situation.
Just to illustrate better, when first changing server to mysqueezebox,
ipeng screen (where you have to confirm or cancel the change) shows the
player selected (I have only one receiver). After confirming (and after
the client gets "lost"), when trying to change again the player doesnŽt
appear anymore on that same screen.
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pippin
2010-08-12 11:59:38 UTC
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Just to illustrate it better, when first changing server to
mysqueezebox, ipeng screen (where you have to confirm or cancel the
change) shows the player selected (I have only one receiver). After
confirming (and after the client gets "lost"), when trying to change
again the player doesnŽt appear anymore on that same screen.
How long have you waited? It can take up to a minute until the player
shows up on MySB after the switch as of my experience.
This can be even longer if the server and MySB use different firmware
versions (which server version do you use?) in which case the Receiver
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Rodrigo
2010-08-12 12:25:45 UTC
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Post by pippin
How long have you waited? It can take up to a minute until the player
shows up on MySB after the switch as of my experience.
This can be even longer if the server and MySB use different firmware
versions (which server version do you use?) in which case the Receiver
will download and install the firmware and reboot.
Version 7.5.1
Tonight iŽll check waiting for the player to show up.
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2010-08-12 12:46:07 UTC
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Post by Rodrigo
Version 7.5.1
Then you don't need a firmware update
Post by Rodrigo
Anyway, does it have to take so long?
You asking me? The command iPeng sends takes a few ms. Everything else
is between the player and the servers.

iPeng sometimes does get player data late, I have no idea why. The
scheme is that the first time iPeng gets the server status (which is
where it gets the players from) and the actual connection of the player
seem to overlap and iPeng doesn't get the player info in the first place
but the server also doesn't send a "change" update as should usually be
the case whenever a new player connects.
The player will then show up whenever the next "regular" update is due
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michel
2010-08-13 12:24:08 UTC
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Unfortunately I can't get WOL working. I had no problem with previous
versions in this regard. No matter if set to manual or automatic the
server keeps suspent. MAC is correctly entered.
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Rodrigo
2010-08-15 14:29:56 UTC
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Post by pippin
Then you don't need a firmware update
You asking me? The command iPeng sends takes a few ms. Everything else
is between the player and the servers.
iPeng sometimes does get player data late, I have no idea why. The
scheme is that the first time iPeng gets the server status (which is
where it gets the players from) and the actual connection of the player
seem to overlap and iPeng doesn't get the player info in the first place
but the server also doesn't send a "change" update as should usually be
the case whenever a new player connects.
The player will then show up whenever the next "regular" update is due
which is once a minute.
Pippin,
thanks for your patience and support.
I waited for about ten minutes and the client was not recognized,
changing from my music to mysqueezebox or vice-versa.
If I reboot the player with ipeng on, I have to change mysqueezebox to
my music (or vice-versa) to the player first shows up. Then changing
from one to the other means nothing.
If I reboot first and then open ipeng, the player is automatically
recognized.
Anyway, I canŽt change server without rebooting the device.
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Rodrigo
2010-08-20 11:38:06 UTC
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Post by pippin
Ah. I've seen that, too (not iPeng related; when shutting down a
server). This means it sticks with the old server.
That's probably one of the conditions that require a reboot.
I don't fully understand how that works inside the Receiver.
1. If your player is connected to a server, it directs the SERVER to
move the player to MySqueezebox.com (if the player is on
MySqueezebox.com it directs MySB to drop it which is the only thing
MySB can do; the player will then have to find the server on it's
own).
2. If your player is disconnected (blue light) it directs the PLAYER to
connect to a specific server using UDAP. It also registers the player
for MySB and your active account if MySB is the target.
I could try to mimic that latter behavior in case 1, too (that's what
the Controller does) but that has the drawback of changing your
player's account in case you use more than one and I don't really see
how this can have an effect in this situation.
Pippin,
I read this post of yours again and iŽm thinking this is really
strange, since, for your explanation and what i see, the server canŽt
find the client but the client canŽt find the server too. ItŽs even
stranger the fact that the player keeps the white light, which means
itŽs connected to a server, as you explained, but if I change it back
to this server it would be connected too, it still doesnŽt actually
find it and resume playing. Well, if it sticked to a player it should
have kept playing, shouldnŽt it?
Post by pippin
I could try to mimic that latter behavior in case 1, too (that's what
the Controller does) but that has the drawback of changing your
player's account in case you use more than one and I don't really see
how this can have an effect in this situation.
Why this would not work? It would not just drop the server and let the
player find it for itself, but direct it to a specific one.
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pippin
2010-08-20 11:42:42 UTC
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Post by Rodrigo
Why this would not work? It would not just drop the server and let the
player find it for itself, but direct it to a specific one.
Because I don't think the issue is the wrong account but that the
Receiver doesn't switch over at all.
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Rodrigo
2010-08-20 15:37:15 UTC
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Post by pippin
Because I don't think the issue is the wrong account but that the
Receiver doesn't switch over at all.
But I'll give it a try in the next release.
Pippin,
I canŽt really understand why, but now switching server started working
as it should.
IŽve playing around a little more with ipeng and found out that
dragging the unconnected player to mysqueezebox.com linked the player
to it(mysqueezebox.com).
But trying to link it to my server ended in creating a new unconnected
player.
After restarting ipeng my own server disappeared.
Then i created a new one with my pc ip address and after restarting
windows it aparently solved my problems.
Switching with player on and off seems to work now.
I updated ipeng yesterday and tried it with no results but now, as i
said, everytinhg is working fine.
IŽll keep testing it this week to see if something odd hapens.
Anyway, thanks for your support and patience! And sorry for any bad
english.

Rodrigo.
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2010-08-20 16:00:45 UTC
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Please bring back the old Player Icons. Just my two cents worth.
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2010-08-20 19:15:18 UTC
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Could someone please explain in simple terms the above feature? From
what I read enabling this feature will turn on your PC/Laptop/NAS from
power off and start the Squeezebox Server?

If so can I use it in my set up? I have a laptop and a Netgear ReadyNas
Duo (The NAS is what I use the most). I tried it on my laptop - I
turned the feature on (MAC was already entered by iPeng) and shut off
my laptop, fired up ipeng but nothing happened.
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garym
2010-08-20 20:30:10 UTC
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Post by 05mattjax
Could someone please explain in simple terms the above feature? From
what I read enabling this feature will turn on your PC/Laptop/NAS from
power off and start the Squeezebox Server?
If so can I use it in my set up? I have a laptop and a Netgear ReadyNas
Duo (The NAS is what I use the most). I tried it on my laptop - I
turned the feature on (MAC was already entered by iPeng) and shut off
my laptop, fired up ipeng but nothing happened.
why would you need WOL for a readynas. Not sure it would work anyhow,
but the point of the READYNAS DUO is that it is on 24/7. A WOL is for
a computer where it goes to sleep and the WOL function wakes the
computer up when you use ipeng to select and play music. But again,
your readynas is on 24/7 anyhow.

p.s. most WOL functions only work on computers that are attached via
ethernet. There are some wifi WOL network adaptors but they are not
common. So if you laptop is connecting wirelessly, it is doubtful that
WOL would work with it.
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gomichaelkgo
2010-08-14 20:24:46 UTC
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Hi Pippin,

I have enjoyed using iPeng for quite some time now.

Unfortunately, with the latest release, i can no longer control my
amplifier volume with iPeng. I have Squeeze center and the player to
fix the audio out at 100% and I use the volume buttons on the IR remote
and on iPeng to send an irBlaster command to my amplifier to manually
control volume.

This all worked until the last update to iPeng. Is this a known issue
and is there a plan to fix it?

Sincerely,
Michael in Portland Oregon, USA.
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pippin
2010-08-14 20:30:00 UTC
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Post by gomichaelkgo
Hi Pippin,
I have enjoyed using iPeng for quite some time now.
Unfortunately, with the latest release, i can no longer control my
amplifier volume with iPeng. I have Squeeze center and the player to
fix the audio out at 100% and I use the volume buttons on the IR remote
and on iPeng to send an irBlaster command to my amplifier to manually
control volume.
This all worked until the last update to iPeng. Is this a known issue
and is there a plan to fix it?
Sincerely,
Michael in Portland Oregon, USA.
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2010-08-16 14:05:24 UTC
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Post by gomichaelkgo
Hi Pippin,
I have enjoyed using iPeng for quite some time now.
Unfortunately, with the latest release, i can no longer control my
amplifier volume with iPeng. I have Squeeze center and the player to
fix the audio out at 100% and I use the volume buttons on the IR remote
and on iPeng to send an irBlaster command to my amplifier to manually
control volume.
This all worked until the last update to iPeng. Is this a known issue
and is there a plan to fix it?
Sincerely,
Michael in Portland Oregon, USA.
I cannot get irblaster to work either with ipeng.Using a transporter
with a ir cable to a Parasound preamplifier.
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2010-08-16 15:35:21 UTC
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I cannot get irblaster to work either with ipeng.Using a transporter
with a ir cable to a Parasound preamplifier.
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2010-08-16 17:25:38 UTC
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As I said two posts above: Do you use the latest version of IRBlaster?
Yes 5.61 that can be found in settings on the server.
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2010-08-16 18:30:43 UTC
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Yes 5.61 that can be found in settings on the server.
And what exactly doesn't work?
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2010-08-16 20:45:34 UTC
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And what exactly doesn't work?
Volume up and down , those
Are the only features I use
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2010-08-17 10:08:03 UTC
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I cannot get irblaster to work either with ipeng.Using a transporter
with a ir cable to a Parasound preamplifier.
Volume up and down , those
Are the only features I use
Do you not sett the buttons, what is your configuration, have you
disabled volume control also in SBS, not only in IRBlaster? Which
server version is this?

C'mon, you want help here. I spend hours a day trying to help out
people, I'm not willing to continue that with people who only throw
around half sentences complaining "dosn wok".

We changed the method of detecting the volume control capabilities,
"we" being Felix, Peter and Aesculus plus myself because there were
severe interactions with the old method of detecting this.
The worst one being that a lot of non-IRBlaster users did also see the
IRBlaster button and, worst of all, had no way to get rid of that
state.
So I'm NOT going to support that old method of IRBlaster detection
again, I'm not prepared to implement a feature that helps 100 people
and causes trouble for 2,000.

The new approach has been tested for quite a while and works for a lot
of people, let's find out why it doesn't for you.
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2010-08-17 10:48:33 UTC
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Post by pippin
C'mon, you want help here. I spend hours a day trying to help out
people, I'm not willing to continue that with people who only throw
around half sentences complaining "dosn wok".
Forget about it . I'll figure it out on my own.
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hvb83
2010-08-17 11:02:53 UTC
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You needed to anyway, with the limited descriptions you provided in
regard to your problem, Pippin (or anyone else for that matter) would
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jhonsberger-uAjRD0nVeow@public.gmane.org
2010-08-17 11:23:01 UTC
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I was only answering directly the questions
He asked . If I wasn't being specific enough
For pippin or you my apologies .
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pippin
2010-08-17 20:38:23 UTC
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iPeng 1.2.5.1 is now available on the App Store.
It fixes some bugs in 1.2.5, most notably:
• iPeng will no longer switch the active player when becoming active
from the background
• More distinguishable active player
• Cover art thumbs now also show in full resolution on iPad
• Proximity sensor support with “Prevent Standby” no longer requires an
App restart to switch state
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hvb83
2010-08-18 09:09:01 UTC
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Great work Pippin, downloaded it last night. The multitask-support is
working great and player on/off-state is much clearer to identify.
1.2.5 felt a bit as a beta in regard to some of the decisions made
during design, but these have all been corrected.

Now that you have more time on your hand, when is iPeng HD finally
coming? ;)
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andynormancx
2010-08-18 09:21:17 UTC
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I'm afraid the on/off state is still not clear enough to me. It always
takes 5 seconds of puzzling before I can work out which players are
on/off. The two visual states are too similar and also neither shouts
on or off to me. Until the on state is clearly on, without reference to
the off state, it won't be clear enough.

By that I mean, at the moment if all my players are all on, I can't
instantly tell whether they are all on or all off. I have to reason
through which state image I am seeing and then reason through whether
it is the "button pressed in" image or not to work out whether it
represents on or off.

The on state needs to have something much more obvious and "on". Like a
glow or something that visual shouts "on" at me.

And yes, I know how hard it is to get subtle things like this right ;)


Everything else is excellent.
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Ikabob
2010-08-18 10:45:15 UTC
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Post by andynormancx
I'm afraid the on/off state is still not clear enough to me. It always
takes 5 seconds of puzzling before I can work out which players are
on/off. The two visual states are too similar and also neither shouts
on or off to me. Until the on state is clearly on, without reference to
the off state, it won't be clear enough.
By that I mean, at the moment if all my players are all on, I can't
instantly tell whether they are all on or all off. I have to reason
through which state image I am seeing and then reason through whether
it is the "button pressed in" image or not to work out whether it
represents on or off.
The on state needs to have something much more obvious and "on". Like a
glow or something that visual shouts "on" at me.
And yes, I know how hard it is to get subtle things like this right ;)
Everything else is excellent.
Well said. I agree that on/ff status is not clear at all.
But , I agree that ipeng is an awesome app. I know the on/off issue
will be fixed soon .
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pippin
2010-08-18 11:06:48 UTC
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Post by Ikabob
Well said. I agree that on/ff status is not clear at all.
But , I agree that ipeng is an awesome app. I know the on/off issue
will be fixed soon .
Just to be clear: The "on/off" state hasn't changed with this update,
we are still working on that one.
What has changed is the highlighting of the active player.
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