[slim] Announcing iPeng 9 - Support for iPad Multitasking, iPad Pro and more

[pippin]

IPENG MOVES ON TO VERSION 9

It has taken a bit longer than expected with App Store reviews and all
that, but now iPeng 9, the iOS 9-release of iPeng, is finally
available.
NOTE:

As usual, accompanying major iOS releases, iPeng incorporates new
platform capabilities and features and prepares to support new
hardware.
However, this year’s new operating system features are so numerous (and
the number of supported platforms, too, now that there is also the Apple
Watch, and Apple TV and iPad Pro are just around the corner) that we
could not implement all new features in one release, so iPeng 9.0 is
just the first of several updates that will add new capabilities to
iPeng during the coming months.

For now, we have focused our changes on the iPad.

SLIDE OVER AND SPLIT VIEW

iOS 9 brings new multitasking capabilities to the iPad, and we think
they are especially important for a remote control App like iPeng. They
allow you to quickly swipe in a second App without leaving the App you
are currently using (Slide Over) or even run two Apps side by side
(Split View).
In both these new modes, iPeng no longer “owns” the whole screen but has
to limit itself to a smaller window. Therefore, iPeng rearranges the
controls on the main screen in these compact modes and moves the content
view further to the left to slide it over the main menu.

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IPAD PRO

This new flexibility also allows iPeng 9 to fully support the upcoming
iPad Pro. Here, iPeng can run side-by-side with another App in landscape
mode and have almost the same size as on smaller iPad models in portrait
mode. Or, if you run iPeng in full screen, you have even more space to
show your library content – actually so much space that on the iPad Pro
iPeng will allow you to permanently show the current playlist (i.e.
“pin” it to the main screen) not only in landscape but also in portrait
orientation.

IPENG USES A NEW FONT

iPeng 9 also introduces a new font to iPeng: Fira Sans. It gives iPeng a
more distinguished look compared to the system font, but it also serves
the practical purpose of making iPeng’s text more legible.
iPeng often shows single lines of text that are width-limited while the
height of a row has become less important with devices getting bigger.
For this reason, we chose a font that is narrower but taller, trading
height for width, allowing us to show the same amount of text at bigger
text sizes and improving legibility without sacrificing the amount of
text displayed in a row.

WHAT’S MORE TO COME?

These are the major changes for now, but iOS 9, watchOS 2 and upcoming
tvOS have much more to offer, so watch out for more new features and
iPeng variants in the next months…

Read more under
http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2015/10/28/ipeng-moves-on-to-version-9/

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[Squeezemenicely]

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!

It is iPeng that makes the obsolete Squeezebox system to the very best
and most modern Multiroom system alive. I believe the only Multisystem
with an Apple Watch app. - Not bad for Zombie turned Opensource...

I use the Watch App every day and am extremely happy that you are
constantly updating the iPeng app. I hope that Spotify and other
services will get updated, so they can run on LMS and all homemade
players (the official ones will die someday, or we might want to use
more players), so we can keep using our systems for a very long time.
I would not want to do without iPeng.



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[pippin]

Thank you, really good to hear that you like iPeng so much.

A watchOS 2 App is definitely also on the list of things to come with
iPeng 9 but since improvements were not as big as expected, especially
if you use the App a lot (so that it doesn't have to be cold started) I
thought Multitasking and AppleTV are more urgent for now.

Regarding services I'm less optimistic (see my remarks in the various
ickStream threads). Spotify already runs well on LMS but some others
(technically even Spotify) are really reluctant to have their
implementations exposed on an open source system. End-to-end security is
a big issue for them.



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[d6jg]

I couldn't give a **** about the gimmicky watch but agree that iPeng is
a big part of what makes LMS what it is.
A work colleague was only recently singing the praises of some recent
app or other that was controlling his wife's Roberts Radio connected to
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[PRGeno]

iPeng is what makes Squeezeboxen, period!


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[mps]

Wow, this is exciting! Thanks for the new iPeng!

Since you mention that you are planning additional releases, I hope it's
not off-topic for me to make two suggestions for your excellent product
(ignore if it is off-topic).

- A rich "now playing" screen with comment field, lyrics, tags like
performers/conductors, album review, etc. It feels like most of the
Now Playing screens are optimized to view from a distance, but I
suspect most people have their iPad right on their lap and would like
to have to go through the menu for common fields.
- Have a rating control that supports half stars for 10 pt ratings.
This works very well on SqueezeCommander.


Not meaning to be critical but hope you appreciate the input.

Thanks again for your continued improvements!

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[pippin]

On #1: Yea, I've long since planned to make a more configurable
alternative to the Lyrics screen saver. Some day.... AppleTV adds some
motivation here :)

#2... This is one of these features.... I don't know... Arguments
against it: I don't get it, it makes the whole thing more complex and
there are so few people using it....
Also... I'm desperately trying to make the whole rating systems mess
_less_ complex, not more, to have a chance to actually add it to Apple
Watch, too. Problem is. right now there are like 4 dimensions for this:


- Rating stars for local tracks
- "love" for remote tracks (theoretically also for local ones but you
have to use the context menu)
- Add to Favorites
- "star" for Spotify (and theoretically other services)


Maybe Last.fm no longer is a thing but I know a lot of users still use
it (more than 10-scale ratings).

Ans how to get all that onto just one button...

But yes, we'll see, it should be possible but I'm not totally convinced,
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[mps]

pippin wrote:
>
> #2... This is one of these features.... I don't know... Arguments
> against it: I don't get it, it makes the whole thing more complex and
> there are so few people using it....
> Also... I'm desperately trying to make the whole rating systems mess
> _less_ complex, not more, to have a chance to actually add it to Apple
> Watch, too. Problem is. right now there are like 4 dimensions for this:
>
> > >
- Rating stars for local tracks
- "love" for remote tracks (theoretically also for local ones but
> you have to use the context menu)
- Add to Favorites
- "star" for Spotify (and theoretically other services)
> > >
>
> Maybe Last.fm no longer is a thing but I know a lot of users still use
> it (more than 10-scale ratings).
>
> Ans how to get all that onto just one button...
>
> But yes, we'll see, it should be possible but I'm not totally
> convinced, yet.
OK. Let me take my best shot at convincing you

- Erland's awesome Trackstat plugin supports a 10 point rating scale.
More compatibility with that would be great.
- Trackstat dynamic ratings create ratings that would display better
with a finer-grained star control
- While I know that much of the world is increasingly focused on
streaming, the Squeezebox community is full of people with carefully
curated and tagged collection of many thousands of songs. 5 points
don't really cut it for such collections.
- If people only have ratings that are a multiple of 20, it will
display exactly like it does now, but for people who have
finer-grained ratings it will display better
- Working better with Last.FM is certainly a plus, esp. in Squeezebox
community
- IIUC, iTunes displays half stars for Last.FM
- We already know it works great on SqueezeCommander. There are zero
posts complaining about that. Admittedly, there are none lauding it
(although I am about to add one, because I love it), but people are
much more likely to complain about things they don't like.
- While it is technically "more complicated," I am having trouble
understanding how anyone could find it confusing. My guess is people
who don't care about it won't even notice.
- If you wanted, you could make it a setting like trackstat does.
People who don't want half star will never even worry about it

My bottom line is that while it's not a world-changing feature (although
it's important to me, so I'd be happy to make a donation to help support
it), there are a bunch of upsides, and I personally don't see much, if
any, of a downside (I know some will disagree).


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[pippin]

mps wrote:
>
> IIUC, iTunes displays half stars for Last.FM
>

To do away with a common myth: iTunes does NOT support half-star
ratings!
iTunes shows average ratings for albums which can be half-star-ratings
but you can NOT set a half-star rating in iTunes.

iPeng - like iTunes - only allows setting of ratings for tracks, on a
scale from 0-5. Aggregate ratings for albums can be shown in TrackStat.



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[pippin]

Since a few days ago Apple has now started shipping the iPad pro and if
you haven't seen it yet or have one and haven't seen iPeng 9 on it, yet,
here are some impressions.

It's seriously gigantic. So gigantic that you can have a fully
functional iPeng (no compact mode) next to another App in full-screen
mode and it's almost the same size as iPeng in portrait mode on a
regular iPad.
Or if you run iPeng exclusively, it allows you to have the "pinned"
inline playlist next to your content in portrait mode (landscape only
for smaller iPads) and show artwork with the "pinned" playlist in
landscape mode.

It's really like a huge media center giving you full access to all these
different aspects of using your Squeezebox simultaneously and without
compromise.

Oh... And if you use iPeng Playback: with it's four builtin speakers it
offers an incredible sound for a tablet!

The images below are thumbnails. Yes, it's so gigantic these are
actually just thumbnails...

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[pufnstuf]

Thank you continuing to support and improve iPeng with every release. It
looks incredible on my iPad Pro and the split screen mode is a very
handy feature allowing me to change/pause a track whilst still working
within another app.

I think I may have abandoned the LMS world a long time ago without
iPeng. It is a seriously high quality app!!

Bring on the tvOS version :):D


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[pippin]

The latest iPeng update, 9.0.3, comes with two improvements:

First, there is a new "All Albums" submenu of "Browse Years". It shows
you a list of your albums, sorted by the year of the initial release. It
is fully cached and indexed by decade so that you can quickly travel
through time (see image).

The other improvement concerns the artwork loading performance. Since
version 7 artwork loading had some built-in speed limit in iPeng to work
around issues with older devices under iOS 7.0. Through extensive
testing we know now that under iOS 8/9 and on newer devices this is no
longer necessary, so we have changed the loading algorithm, which should
result in some significant speed improvements on newer devices as soon
as the artwork is cached on your iPhone or iPad.

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[jfo]

pippin wrote:
> The latest iPeng update, 9.0.3, comes with two improvements:
>
> First, there is a new "All Albums" submenu of "Browse Years". It shows
> you a list of your albums, sorted by the year of the initial release. It
> is fully cached and indexed by decade so that you can quickly travel
> through time (see image).
>
> The other improvement concerns the artwork loading performance. Since
> version 7 artwork loading had some built-in speed limit in iPeng to work
> around issues with older devices under iOS 7.0. Through extensive
> testing we know now that under iOS 8/9 and on newer devices this is no
> longer necessary, so we have changed the loading algorithm, which should
> result in some significant speed improvements on newer devices as soon
> as the artwork is cached on your iPhone or iPad.
>
> [image:
> http://penguinlovesmusic.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_6307.5.jpg]
Nice update Jorge! Thanks..


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[Daverz]

pippin wrote:
> The latest iPeng update, 9.0.3, comes with two improvements:
>
> First, there is a new "All Albums" submenu of "Browse Years". It shows
> you a list of your albums, sorted by the year
>

Thank you for the continuing work. However the dates show up where they
are unwelcome; in the Composer menu, for example. I never browse by
date, nor particularly care about it, so I'd rather turn this feature
off altogether.


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[pippin]

Daverz wrote:
> Thank you for the continuing work. However the dates show up where they
> are unwelcome; in the Composer menu, for example. I never browse by
> date, nor particularly care about it, so I'd rather turn this feature
> off altogether.

There is no change WRT this. The only change is that the index is now by
decades wherever a player list is sorted by year, the sorting itself
isn't changed.
These (sub) menus always have been sorted by year first, it's the server
default, too.
If you don't want sorting by year for album list below an artist there
is (and always has been) an option for this in iPeng's settings: "Sort
Albums by Name".



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[Daverz]

pippin wrote:
> There is no change WRT this. The only change is that the index is now by
> decades wherever a player list is sorted by year, the sorting itself
> isn't changed.
> These (sub) menus always have been sorted by year first, it's the server
> default, too.
> If you don't want sorting by year for album list below an artist there
> is (and always has been) an option for this in iPeng's settings: "Sort
> Albums by Name".
>

Ah, thanks. Obviously I'm not very observant! Thanks, again, for the
quick reply.


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[Michael Herger]

> These (sub) menus always have been sorted by year first, it's the server
> default, too.

No, it's not. Default is album name. There's only one list which is
sorted by year by default: "Browse by years".
--

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[pippin]

mherger wrote:
>
> No, it's not. Default is album name. There's only one list which is
> sorted by year by default: "Browse by years".
>

Interesting. Has this changed at some point? I thought the default was
"artflow" when I first implemented this (granted, some 7 years ago or
so....) and while "artflow" is "artist, year, album" for a given artist
that obviously translates to "year, album" which is what iPeng uses
unless you change that sort setting.

Might be worth it to change the default of that switch if the server
default is different.



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[Michael Herger]

> Interesting. Has this changed at some point? I thought the default was
> "artflow" when I first implemented this (granted, some 7 years ago or
> so....) and while "artflow" is "artist, year, album" for a given artist
> that obviously translates to "year, album" which is what iPeng uses
> unless you change that sort setting.

Might have been changed when Alan did the big "onebrowse" change - which
happened a few years ago, too :-)

--

Michael

[pippin]

mherger wrote:
>
> Might have been changed when Alan did the big "onebrowse" change - which
>
> happened a few years ago, too :-)
>

Maybe that's it.
I don't really think it's something I invented because where I deviate
from LMS defaults it's either because I follow Apple's (they use
alphabetical ordering) or my personal preferences and I used to use
alphabet sorting, too, so I wouldn't know why I should have chosen
something else as the default.

That said: since I do so many new installations I tend to use the
default settings in iPeng more and more and I started to find the
chronological ordering does make some sense, too, because often you
think about early/late albums of an artist when searching for something.
The problem for me is just that at least half of my library doesn't have
the dates correctly tagged....



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[Mnyb]

Some weird observations regarding now playing artwork .

Some random art can be missing like the first track on an album , but it
quickly fixes itself if you just flick the playlist back and forth .

If you switch focus to another app and back to iPeng all art in the now
playing is gone for a second or two then it returns ?



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[pippin]

Mnyb wrote:
> Some weird observations regarding now playing artwork .
>
> Some random art can be missing like the first track on an album , but it
> quickly fixes itself if you just flick the playlist back and forth .
>
Which LMS version is this?
This sounds like a result of that recent change I made (actually in
9.0.2) to fix missing artwork on some installations.
iPeng now uses a different ID as the default for the artwork ("coverid")
which is supposed to be correct but older server version (with "older"
being older than a few weeks ago) had an issue where the lookup of the
artwork using the coverid only worked the second time.
Michael fixed this in LMS 7.9, not sure about 7.8.1 and 7.7.6 but I'd
think the fix is there, too.

>
> If you switch focus to another app and back to iPeng all art in the now
> playing is gone for a second or two then it returns ?
Yep. That's normal. iPeng doesn't want to get shut down in the
background so it's being a good iOS citizen and releases the artwork
from memory when being suspended. This means it need to be re-loaded
from the disc-cache when you return.
The alternative would be to keep it in memory but that increases the
risk of the App being shut down (iOS shuts down the Apps using the most
memory in the background first) and a complete cold-start takes much
longer... Artwork re-loading should be much faster in 9.0.3 than before,
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[Mnyb]

7.9 since 29/11 I'll update and see what happens . The artwork reloading
,never seen that before ? In the older version did it keep the art
currently visible in the UI ? If the playlist is very long it's only a
small amount that's on the screen at a given time .

Your rigth I see that in all views a quick flicker when I get back to
the new music or album too . I got the vague feeling that they sort of
lingered around a longer time before .



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[pippin]

Mnyb wrote:
> 7.9 since 29/11 I'll update and see what happens . The artwork reloading
> ,never seen that before ? In the older version did it keep the art
> currently visible in the UI ?
>
Actually are you talking about the playlist on the NowPlaying screen on
iPad? That's indeed a change, need to look up what's happening there.

Normally the playlist actually doesn't update (the normal one still
doesn't) when you leave the App and return so this shouldn't be.

Album lists still clear and refresh because the main menu structure gets
refreshed (NowPlaying shouldn't if it's not expired).

I think this is probably something happening since 9.0. I had to do
a,lot of changes to the state model because on iPad now there are a lot
of incidences where the screen format can change while the App is
sleeping and NowPlaying is a modal screen which doesn't get notified of
everything. Still should not be required.



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[Mnyb]

pippin wrote:
> Actually are you talking about the playlist on the NowPlaying screen on
> iPad? That's indeed a change, need to look up what's happening there.
>
> Normally the playlist actually doesn't update (the normal one still
> doesn't) when you leave the App and return so this shouldn't be.
>
> Album lists still clear and refresh because the main menu structure gets
> refreshed (NowPlaying shouldn't if it's not expired).
>
> I think this is probably something happening since 9.0. I had to do
> a,lot of changes to the state model because on iPad now there are a lot
> of incidences where the screen format can change while the App is
> sleeping and NowPlaying is a modal screen which doesn't get notified of
> everything. Still should not be required.

Yes now playing on my iPad



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[Mnyb]

About the main menu in porttrait mode the 3 items in the bottom of the
menu does not work but they do in landscape mode ?

And since i reinstalled the oficial spotify plugin iPeng randomly gets
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[Mnyb]

Mnyb wrote:
> About the main menu in porttrait mode the 3 items in the bottom of the
> menu does not work but they do in landscape mode ?
>
> And since i reinstalled the oficial spotify plugin iPeng randomly gets
> me "your player was not found" message and i have to restart iPeng

In porttrait mode when touching the bottom part of the main menu it can
"pull" on the left part of the screen just as when want to expand that
part to cover the menu texts ?



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[pippin]

Mnyb wrote:
> In porttrait mode when touching the bottom part of the main menu it can
> "pull" on the left part of the screen just as when want to expand that
> part to cover the menu texts ?

I don't understand this.
Could we also please continue this discussion in the service thread?
This is an announcement thread, I don't want people to have to wade
through pages of discussions, that's what that service thread is for.

This one is for discussion of new features and maybe feature requests.



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[pippin]

Mnyb wrote:
> About the main menu in porttrait mode the 3 items in the bottom of the
> menu does not work but they do in landscape mode ?
>
I can't reproduce this. Does it go away when you restart the App?
Is your main menu long enough so that you need to scroll it?

>
> And since i reinstalled the oficial spotify plugin iPeng randomly gets
> me "your player was not found" message and i have to restart iPeng

"No player found" means the connection to o the server got lost.
Have you tried to reboot your router?



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[johnas]

Also wanted to say very nice update. The new font is a nice change. As
always the Voiceover support is excellent and appreciated.




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[epoch1970]

I don't own current models so I only have access to Slide over.
The ability to summon the playlist with a swipe is great. Excellent use
of the feature.
Thanks, Pippin!



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[R1200CL]

We have discussed this before.

I just like to encourage you again to have the streaming quality
available somewhere in the main page. Not hidden under the more info
option.
Mp3, Flac (16/24 and 44/48/96/192), and if MQA is beeing implemented,
that also of cause.

I understand this will be something most usefull for those of us having
Tidal/Wimp hi-fi plan.
I often find music I'm playing only to be available in MP3. Also usefull
for your ripped or phurchased tracks.

If you argue it's hard to find a place, you could even use a color code
in the play symbol as an example.


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[pippin]

You mean while browsing or on the NowPlaying screen?
While browsing I can't show it for services, the information is simply
not in the menus.
For files iPeng already shows the file type, doesn't it?



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pippin wrote:
> You mean while browsing or on the NowPlaying screen?
> While browsing I can't show it for services, the information is simply
> not in the menus.
> For files iPeng already shows the file type, doesn't it?
>
> On NowPlaying... see my comment above. I'm not going to clutter the main
> screen with this, >99% of all users probably don't want this but I do
> plan to have an "info" page as an alternative to the Lyrics screen
> saver.

No, when browsing does not make sense. As the hifi subscription user
assume he/her gets CD quality. And such information can of cause only be
detected while playing.

Yes, iPeng shows the streaming quality after pressing to menu items. So
yes, I'm requesting on the main window or both. Somewhere on the top.
(Similar to the Auralic app).

If this is only of interest for 1 % of the users, then what you are
saying is that only about 1 % of the users has a hi-fi subscription.
Really ? I was expecting a higher prosentage of the iPeng was hi-fi
subscribers. (As this only will serve those, and those that does not
have control over their local files).

The idea is to easy see that you are not getting the expected sound
quality. This will be even more important when or if MQA is implemented,
as only a few tracks will be available in the beginning. 5000 has been
said.

Well anyway you already refused main screens. Even if it was adding a
color that only those with hi-fi subscription could see.
Just have to see what info screen brings then. Not sure that helps, as
that also may need two touches on my iPad for every song from main
screen. Well it will probably save me the long press.

Thanks for a quick replay.
Still hoping for a reconsiddering :D


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[pippin]

R1200CL wrote:
>
> If this is only of interest for 1 % of the users, then what you are
> saying is that only about 1 % of the users has a hi-fi subscription.
>
No, but for most people listening to the music is still more important
than monitoring the performance of their service provider. I do have
several HiFi service subscriptions but the only cases when I actually
look into these parameters is when I want to check whether the right
account is activated and for that the context menu is just fine.

I mean.... if you don't get a FLAC stream, then what? Get angry at
TIDAL? Not enough time for that in my life :) I would check if it sounds
murky but for that, again, the context menu is fine. In most cases it
turns out to be a bad mix, not the stream format.

I can only re-iterate it: showing already TOO MUCH information is the
single most frequent complaint I get about iPeng, I can't clutter this
even more, every time I add something I get tons of complaints. Just
check today's comments in the iPeng service thread because I added a
section divider for the CD number if you want to get a feeling.

Oh, and there's another point: that information is totally unreliable :)
Only the player _really_ knows what it's getting and then has to tell
the server which in turn tells iPeng... this often breaks.

>
> Still hoping for a reconsiddering :D

As I said: some day there will be a nice, crowded, configurable
alternative screens showing bitrate, sample rate, BPM, file size, URL,
file format, comments, year, genre, biographies, CD number, 10-step
ratings and all these other things people ask for to get on the main
screen. You will be able to permanently use it as a screen saver like
you can use the lyrics screen saver now, it's almost like the main page
and that's it then.



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My ipeng won't connect to my server. Ipenghd will ipeng won't. Running
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Sorted it. Uninstalled re installed. Now working. Looks better as well.
Thank you

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[epoch1970]

(Random thought, feel free to disregard)

I was thinking of iPeng on the new appletv (although I don't have a tv,
only a video projector)...
Are you going to give it more the personality of a controller (a la
beosound 5), or will it be more of a player?

Somehow I feel the physical presence of the large screen + remote +
wired networking would allow for a great whole-house controller... Are
you finally taking over the complete LMS gui (= including admin) this
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[Heliocentric]

iPeng has long been my Goto for controlling my LMS based music library.
Time marches on though and I can foresee in the next five years that my
Squeezeboxes will begin to fail after MANY years of flawless service.
While there are options for replacing Squeezeboxes on the market, there
are MANY MORE options for HiFi streaming devices that are UPnP
compatible, such as the newly announced Bel Canto e.one Stream. I would
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[pippin]

The other way around.
It will start primarily as a player, probably with basic controls like
favorites.
I plan to add full browsing eventually but it's cumbersome compared to
an iPhone.

The lack of a touch screen makes for very bad remote controls.
Especially for admin stuff. You have no idea how often I have wanted to
throw that remote at the next wall when I had to enter all my
credentials again through that finicky text input.
Try to use a Squeezebox Radio as a remote and you get an idea of how the
thing feels.

No, the Apple TV NEEDS a remote control, it's not one by itself.

Also... There's no background mode on Apple TV so an App has to run in
the foreground to be active.
Apple plans to use the Apple TV as a hub for HomeKit but that's just
using their own, OS-integrated technologies, there not a lot App
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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.



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[dsdreamer]

pippin wrote:
>
>
> No, the Apple TV NEEDS a remote control, it's not one by itself.
>
>

I totally understand your point, but I was wondering with Siri
integration in the new Apple TV, can we get searches inside content
known to Apps? I get the impression that voice control is meant to
compensate for the lack of mechanical keyboard for the use-cases that
Apple wants to support. Some possibilities come to mind here, although
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[pippin]

Yes, search integration is something that will help a bit and I'm going
to do that in iOS 9, too.
But it's just search and it only works for known data. I'm not even sure
adding a whole list of albums is feasible, tracks probably not.
But no radio, no remote services, nothing that iPeng presents as a menu,
no context menu information and no controls that are not present on the
remote, it's still quite a lot that's missing for a proper remote.



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[pippin]

There's another issue with Siri: it only properly works in English. Yes,
it supports other languages, too, but the problem is it's not
multi-lingual. So if I set it to German and then try to search for an
album with an English name I first have to figure out what Siri thinks
how a German pronunciation of that title would sound like,
And if I set it to English I can no longer find German albums or artists
or e.g. Locations (ok, navigation is probably less of an issue on the TV
as on the phone).
This really restricts Siri's usefulness outside English speaking
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pippin wrote:
> There's another issue with Siri: it only properly works in English. Yes,
> it supports other languages, too, but the problem is it's not
> multi-lingual. So if I set it to German and then try to search for an
> album with an English name I first have to figure out what Siri thinks
> how a German pronunciation of that title would sound like,
> And if I set it to English I can no longer find German albums or artists
> or e.g. Locations (ok, navigation is probably less of an issue on the TV
> as on the phone).
> This really restricts Siri's usefulness outside English speaking
> countries.

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[mcgsxr]

Just wanted to say thanks for continuing to develop this app.

I bought my first Squeezebox back in 2003 or so. And have had more than
a few flow through various systems over the years.

I use both an actual Squeezebox (Touch) and a plug computer hacked with
Vortexbox VAMP image.

It is the iPeng app for the family ios devices that makes the magic. I
am able to grab any of their iPhone, iPad, iPad mini or even my old
iTouch and adjust accordingly. I even have in app streaming for FLAC on
the iTouch.

Great app, thanks again!


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Thank you :)



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[epoch1970]

Just to say you have a customer for the upcoming iPeng on tvOS.
Not that I need it exactly (there is an SB3 connected to the AV
receiver...), but the atv4 built-in app for home sharing is so bare that
1/3 party apps are absolutely required to make this thing worthwhile.
For videos I've added Plex (a bit buggy but will be fine, I bet) and for
audio I won't hesitate :)

(and having now used the remote for text input, I fully understand your
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[pippin]

What kind of menu is this? CustomBrowse? Or LMS 7.9, additional browse
mode?



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[Daverz]

pippin wrote:
> What kind of menu is this? CustomBrowse? Or LMS 7.9, additional browse
> mode?
> Also,... They are in the Composers menu? They should only be in an
> albums menu (e.g. Albums by Composer")

It's the LMS 7.9 Composers menu. All good now with Sort Album by Name.


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[pippin]

IPENG 9’S APPLE WATCH APP GETS AN UPDATE.
Now, with iPeng 9.5, we have updated to the watchOS 3/4 platform.

USE THE DIGITAL CROWN TO CHANGE THE VOLUME
While watchOS 1 apps are running on your iPhone, watchOS 2 and newer
lets the app run directly on the watch.

The most immediate change you will notice after the update is that iPeng
can now finally make use of the digital crown to change the player
volume. This allows you to change the volume much faster than before by
simply turning the crown. To illustrate this, the volume indicator is
now symbolized by a (round) dial instead of a bar.

USE COMPLICATIONS TO QUICKLY LAUNCH THE APP FROM THE WATCH FACE
Another new feature is Complications, which you can add to your watch
face. Depending on the watch face and the type of complication you
select, it will show an icon for the currently selected player and the
player name or the current volume.

Tapping the complication directly launches the app.

OTHER CHANGES IN THE WATCHOS APP
But the switch to the new watchOS versions also comes with some
downsides: Apple no longer lets us bundle the original watchOS 1 app
with iPeng, so iPeng 9.5 now requires your watch to run at least under
watchOS 3.

Also, while performance on the new Apple Watch Series 3 is pretty good,
the app can feel a bit slower on the original Apple Watch (“Series 0”).
That is because the processor on this old watch is slow and the app can
no longer use the resources of your iPhone.

USE THE “MUSIC, WALK WITH ME”-PLUGIN FOR QUICKSWITCH
One more feature seeing a change is “QuickSwitch” when selecting a
player on the watch. So far, the feature allowed you to move your music
(the current playlist) directly from one player to another. This now
requires the “Music, Walk With Me”-plugin to be installed on your
Logitech Media server and will no longer work with MySqueezebox.com. The
reason is that the feature requires continuous communication with the
server over several commands, which isn’t possible in a reliable and
quick way on watchOS. The old app could do this by calling the main
iPeng app on iOS, but since watchOS 2 this is no longer possible.

You can install the plugin simply from the “Settings->Plugins” section
in your server’s web interface.

Overall, if you have one of the newer Apple Watch models, iPeng 9.5 will
make iPeng on Apple Watch much more usable and useful, you get really
quick actions and volume changes, we hope you will enjoy it!

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[pippin]

Like every year during fall, Apple have presented their new devices and
thus laid the foundation for changes to iPeng. Once again, that kept us
busy to deliver the best design and functionality.

For the iPhone XS Max, the challenge was to adapt to the truly huge
(6.5-inch!) screen. The Apple Watch Series 4, whose design Apple – by
ist own words – has not only “evolved”, but “transformed”, also comes
with a larger display and rounded corners, which made design adjustments
necessary.

iPeng now also supports the following new features on the Apple Watch:

multicolored complications
more formats for complications
implementation of the curved corner complication design
The new version is now available as a free update in the App Store.
Another update for iPeng UE will follow shortly.

IT’S JUST “IPENG” AGAIN

One last note on the product name of iPeng, because there are news here
as well: From now on you will find the app in the App Store under
“iPeng” again, not under “iPeng 9”: Since iPeng Classic got removed from
the App Store by Apple, we decided to return iPeng to it’s original
product name since the distinction is no longer necessary.

And as always: Have fun with the app!

https://penguinlovesmusic.de/2018/09/30/ipeng-9-6-big-change-for-the-big-screen/
App Store:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ipeng-7/id767266886?mt=8&uo=4&at=10l56j


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[BuddyRich]

I recently purchased the new Apple Watch 4 so have had a chance to try
the new watch app.

It seems fairly basic, but I just might not be using it correcly. Is
there a guide explaining its use, especially the latest versions for
watchos5?

Specifically is there anyway to browse and add music from your LMS (or
spotty plugin), or are you limited to manipulating whatever is in the
now playing queue?


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[Paul Webster]

I don't know for sure - but the iPeng site implies not...
"So browsing through long lists of thousands of albums or the like will
probably not make sense (Apple’s own apps are all quite limited in that
respect), Apple’s general guideline is to only implement tasks that
don’t take longer than 10s since after that the arm will quickly start
to tire."
from
https://penguinlovesmusic.de/2015/06/22/ipeng-for-apple-watch-design-notes/



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[pippin]

BuddyRich wrote:
> I think it was WatchOS4 that started allowing apps to run directly on
> the watch so that is a bit out of date but at the same time with no
> keyboard you can't really input text so searching would be out... It
> *is* space constrained but it would be nice to be able to queue up an
> album or playlist and browse using the digital crown to scroll lists...
>
The one thing that has changed with watchOS 2 actually (not 4, that's
just the first version where we support it) is that you can indeed use
the crown.
What has not changed, though, is the network performance of watchOS. You
may be able to scroll through a list faster, but if that list takes a
minute to load the experience is still not a good one.

I plan to add browsing favorites and Siri Shortcuts which gives a bit
more capability to the watch but full browsing of long lists... probably
not.

One mistake you must not make on watchOS is assuming that just because
Apple does something on the watch it's something 3rd party apps can do
as well. Apple still doesn't seem to use the watchOS SDK, their watch
Apps do a lot of things 3rd party apps can't do, getting priority for
their network transfers being one of these things...

>
> Regarding that blog post though, the first screenshoot is showing album
> art with track info, but I can't seem to find that view.
>
That's a "Glance", a functionality watchOS had until watchOS 3, it since
got removed in favor of the dock and the control center.

>
> I can get the album art up by swipe or long press (can't remember which
>
Tap on the title.
Force-Touch brings up player control - that's pretty much a watchOS
standard (the whole Force-Touch context menu thing is a standard watchOS
control).
Long-Press does nothing.



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[pippin]

Well, you could try to use it through the UPnPBridge plugin.
The results will vary, though, depending on the quality of the UPnP/DLNA
implementation.
Most of them are not very good, the reason vendors use UPnP is usually
that they lack the software competency to implement a decent protocol so
they just use some chipset vendor‘s standard implementation.

Things like multiroom sync will most definitely not work.

DLNA/UPnP really is a bad protocol.



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[Leixia]

I move to Squeeze Ctrl on Android to your app on a iPhone, and thank
you, it is a great app!
But i would like to know if it is possible to change the button in the
bottom ? (I would like to replace artist or composer by spotty and
radio)



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[amey01]

pippin wrote:
>
> DLNA/UPnP really is a bad protocol, there’s a reason there are no really
> exiting apps for it although there are so many devices using it.

Ain't that the truth!

It's got to be the sh1ttiest protocol in use today.


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[pippin]

Sure. Just use the editing menu under „More“. The first four items in
the main menu are shown on the tab bar, besides that you can rearrange
the whole menu structure through drag&drop



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[Leixia]

pippin wrote:
> Sure. Just use the editing menu under „More“. The first four items in
> the main menu are shown on the tab bar, besides that you can rearrange
> the whole menu structure through drag&drop

Thank you very much, another thing, do you know a good menu bar app (or
in notification center) for mac?



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[pippin]

For Squeezebox? Not that I’m aware of.



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