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Logitech Squeezebox Boom?
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brunoflipper
2008-08-06 14:02:54 UTC
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http://www.wifisound.nl/catalog/logitechsqueezeboxboom-p-445.html
http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/06/logitech-squeezebox-boom-pops-up-on-dutch-site/



any other details?
does it have outputs?


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robroe
2008-08-06 14:07:54 UTC
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Interesting, sounds a lot like the thing some people have been asking
for for a while! A company who listens to their customers or a good
photoshop?

Oh.. and "Tempted"... yep ;)


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bhaagensen
2008-08-06 14:09:04 UTC
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Wow, is it for real?


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Nonreality
2008-08-06 14:17:14 UTC
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If this is also set up for the Ipod dock connector they might really
have something. That or it's own 80gB hd for taking music with you
when you're out of range.


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bhaagensen
2008-08-06 14:21:32 UTC
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Nonreality;326654 Wrote:
> That or it's own 80gB hd for taking music with you when you're out of
> range.

...and how would that work? Does it have processing power enough to run
SqueezeCenter, or does this mean that we are (for many) finally also
seeing the introduction of the incredibly small fast SC written purely
in assembler and languages lower than that ;)

This sort of news really is nice as an outset for wild speculations.


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Nonreality
2008-08-06 14:23:11 UTC
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bhaagensen;326658 Wrote:
> .
>
> This sort of news really is nice as an outset for wild speculations.

That's why I added the HD. The electric toothbrush comes later. :)


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bhaagensen
2008-08-06 14:28:56 UTC
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Nonreality;326659 Wrote:
> That's why I added the HD. The electric toothbrush comes later. :)

Yeah I realise, the comment was aimed at my own speculations. I propose
that this new small and efficient server should be called SlimCenter.


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Espen
2008-08-06 14:23:14 UTC
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As I said in another thread that got removed. More to spend money on :)


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fuzzball76
2008-08-06 14:28:30 UTC
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Espen,

that was my post, that got removed :)
Apparently SD/Logi was not ready for the announcement :P, but the
manual is a clear giveaway.


manual is here :
http://slimdevices.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/slimdevices.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=8873&p_created=1217962014&p_sid=k316RDaj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NSw1JnBfcHJvZHM9MCZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9Ym9vbQ**&p_li=&p_topview=1


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bhaagensen
2008-08-06 14:35:32 UTC
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fuzzball76;326663 Wrote:
>
> manual is here :
> http://slimdevices.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/slimdevices.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=8873&p_created=1217962014&p_sid=k316RDaj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NSw1JnBfcHJvZHM9MCZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9Ym9vbQ**&p_li=&p_topview=1

Looks like it IS for real. Wonder whether the wheel has the same
physical feedback system as the TransNav on the Transporter?


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m1abrams
2008-08-06 14:43:05 UTC
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bhaagensen;326667 Wrote:
> Looks like it IS for real. Wonder whether the wheel has the same
> physical feedback system as the TransNav on the Transporter?

I did not see any mention of a battery pack in the manual. So does
that mean it must be connected to a power source? Not really a deal
breaker for me if that is the case, since it would need to be within
range of my wifi. It would be slightly nicer to be able to just grab
it and set it on the deck without having to find a power source though.


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mrfantasy
2008-08-06 14:43:17 UTC
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bhaagensen;326667 Wrote:
> Looks like it IS for real. Wonder whether the wheel has the same
> physical feedback system as the TransNav on the Transporter?

I doubt it for the price. It looks like it might be $299 like the SB3,
which is interesting since it includes an amp, has a line in, and has
additional buttons on the front. But it may be true--the display looks
smaller (possibly same resolution, but the pix seem to indicate maybe a
160x32 display), there's no digital or line level outs. Suppose it's
also possible the DAC is less expensive, but I'm guessing it's the same
as in the SBR.

I'm tempted to get one for my clock radio.


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bhaagensen
2008-08-06 14:48:13 UTC
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mrfantasy;326675 Wrote:
> I doubt it for the price. It looks like it might be $299 like the SB3,
> which is interesting since it includes an amp, has a line in, and has
> additional buttons on the front. But it may be true--the display looks
> smaller (possibly same resolution, but the pix seem to indicate maybe a
> 160x32 display), there's no digital or line level outs.
> I'm tempted to get one for my clock radio.

Yes, featurewise it certainly very much seems like its been designed
so that is doesn't really compete with the any of the Duet/SB3/TP. Make
sense I guess.


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2008-08-06 15:06:53 UTC
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mrfantasy;326675 Wrote:
> I'm tempted to get one for my clock radio.

Hey Mike,
Wouldn't that be a Clock Squeezbox or Clock Boom? Or maybe even an
Alarm Boom or Alarm Squeezebox. I didn't see anything about a FM or Am
Tuner in the manual so radio would be a real misnomer.


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fuzzball76
2008-08-06 15:15:12 UTC
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Wifisound.nl took the page down as well ...


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4mula1
2008-08-06 16:00:58 UTC
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I think the Boom would be perfect for my parents. I wonder if I can
talk them into one and score a good deal on their used Slim Devices
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Mike Meyer
2008-08-06 16:12:45 UTC
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And MeSue doesn't even want one anymore.


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2008-08-06 23:02:21 UTC
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> And MeSue doesn't even want one anymore.

Ha! Well, I wouldn't say that. My poolside workaround is pretty fiddly,
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Mike Meyer
2008-08-08 22:37:56 UTC
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> Ha! Well, I wouldn't say that. My poolside workaround is pretty fiddly,
> and the wireless speaker is prone to interference.

It will be tempting. :) I'll have to check out the price when it is
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andynormancx
2008-08-06 14:43:24 UTC
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No numeric/alpha buttons on the remote :(


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mrfantasy
2008-08-06 14:45:38 UTC
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http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_boom.html

Only half done, though--a lot of the specs and info (like the size) are
clearly for the SB3, so not too much to glean here.


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2008-08-06 16:28:20 UTC
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mrfantasy;326677 Wrote:
> http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_boom.html
>
> Only half done, though--a lot of the specs and info (like the size) are
> clearly for the SB3, so not too much to glean here.

You didn't happen to save a copy of that page, it's 404 now :(

I know the Slim/Logitech can't say anything yet.. But so far it looks
great! Good work!


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jth
2008-08-06 16:47:38 UTC
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Good news, I will soon be able to finally retire the SB1 + portable
stereo +
mess of wires that I've had to move to the back garden every time we
have a neighborhood party ...


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2008-08-06 19:03:50 UTC
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SuperQ;326711 Wrote:
> You didn't happen to save a copy of that page, it's 404 now :(
>
> I know the Slim/Logitech can't say anything yet.. But so far it looks
> great! Good work!

Screen shot of page in the zip file.


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2008-08-06 19:06:37 UTC
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>From a norwegian page:

(Pål Berntsen, account manager, Logitech)

http://www.tu.no/forbrukerteknologi/bildeserier/article171565.ece?start=7&t=06181655


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2008-08-06 19:14:19 UTC
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mteinum;326759 Wrote:
> (Pål Berntsen, account manager, Logitech)

Heh. I'll bet that guy's in a little bit of trouble today...


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Paul Shields
2008-08-06 19:30:58 UTC
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This is exactly what I've been waiting for as a small player/radio/alarm
in the bedroom. Can't wait for it to be available :).


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2008-08-06 20:15:10 UTC
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Paul Shields;326771 Wrote:
> This is exactly what I've been waiting for as a small player/radio/alarm
> in the bedroom. Can't wait for it to be available :).

Small??? :)


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signor_rossi
2008-08-06 20:35:43 UTC
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Milhouse;326791 Wrote:
> Small??? :)

If I look at the photo where the guy is holding it on the previous page
I would say that it actually is quite small.
First impression is quite good after reading the manual, I like the
7-day battery buffered alarm function, sounds neat, and a VFD is always
good, you can't beat the readability of it from a long distance in
one-line mode.
Let's see if it really comes out the end of september...


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andynormancx;326676 Wrote:
> No numeric/alpha buttons on the remote :(

That's somewhat a lay down for me too, but I guess the SB3 remote will
work with Squeezecenter running.
Besides that, exactly what I was hoping for, don't mind that it has no
battery pack, there is a good chance I will get one. :)

Bye, signorRossi.


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HectorHughMunro
2008-08-06 18:56:15 UTC
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Espen;326660 Wrote:
> As I said in another thread that got removed. More to spend money on :)
> There is a user manual (pdf) to download if one search for "boom" on
> the
> front page. Lots of details.

Is that really ethical to remove a thread for that reason?


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2008-08-06 19:32:18 UTC
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HectorHughMunro;326749 Wrote:
> Is that really ethical to remove a thread for that reason?

Is that really a serious question?

The owner of the forum can do whatever it pleases here. And what
exactly is the ethical quandry into which the owner would have stepped
by deleting such a post?


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2008-08-06 19:58:20 UTC
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pounce;326782 Wrote:
> For the record I'd buy 4 of these the day they came out.


Which will be early 2009 in Europe and late 2012 in Australia :)

Im off to NY in September .. Fingers crossed!!


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2008-08-06 19:56:31 UTC
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For the record I'd buy 4 of these the day they came out.


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Mitch Harding
2008-08-06 20:04:37 UTC
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What exactly would be unethical about it? It's their forum!

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> Espen;326660 Wrote:
>> As I said in another thread that got removed. More to spend money on :)
>> There is a user manual (pdf) to download if one search for "boom" on
>> the
>> front page. Lots of details.
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> Is that really ethical to remove a thread for that reason?
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2008-08-06 20:16:49 UTC
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Mitch Harding;326786 Wrote:
> What exactly would be unethical about it? It's their forum!
What's more interesting is their decision to undelete the post. Is it
that the cat's out of the bag so deleting posts is futile, or that it's
just round the corner so what's the point in hiding it now? ;-)


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fuzzball76
2008-08-06 20:21:54 UTC
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I got an email saying that they would 'soft delete' my post and why, so
no harsh words ...

I can imagine a company like Logitech wants as much control as possible
on a product launch to have maximum impact when they introduce a
product like this.

However, my post to Engadget got them some free promotion :)
I'm willing to be compensated for that work in Squeezebox Booms :P

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2008-08-06 20:28:55 UTC
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Has anyone figured if it has built in battery ? it should have for this
kind of product imho. More practical to have a rechargeable unit on the
patio or in the bathroom or by the pool, i don,t like the idea of 230V
extension cord plummeting down in my bathtub :-) zzzap ouch !


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signor_rossi
2008-08-06 20:36:58 UTC
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Mnyb;326798 Wrote:
> Has anyone figured if it has built in battery ? it should have for this
> kind of product imho. More practical to have a rechargeable unit on the
> patio or in the bathroom or by the pool, i don,t like the idea of 230V
> extension cord plummeting down in my bathtub :-) zzzap ouch !

No battery according to manual.


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Mnyb
2008-08-06 20:57:51 UTC
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signor_rossi;326802 Wrote:
> No battery according to manual.

To bad, they should have done more research i have a Tivoli PAL thats a
neat rechargeable radio, but then of course a pack of NiMH batteries
adds a lot to the BOM.

Well if I ever get one I also get an earth fault switch for my
extension cord, so I don't be the first person actually killed by a SC
bug ;-) Imagine Boom trips up ?.. reaching for the thing from the pool
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2008-08-06 20:51:26 UTC
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Mitch Harding;326786 Wrote:
> What exactly would be unethical about it? It's their forum!
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:56 PM, HectorHughMunro
> <HectorHughMunro.3dqj5z1218049202 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
> >
> > Espen;326660 Wrote:
> >> As I said in another thread that got removed. More to spend money on
> :)
> >> There is a user manual (pdf) to download if one search for "boom"
> on
> >> the
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There are free speech issues. If they want a forum to be taken
seriously, it's a little high handed.

The problem was a leak within their own network and the information
went in to the public domain.

Moderation IS appropriate when discussions are getting too heated or if
things are being said that are untrue and create legal/moral exposures
to maliciously disadvantage or victimise another party. Cutting out
remarks for convenience is another issue and seems wrong to me. In
these situations, the best way to judge the issue is to imagine doing
it yourself and ask whether it would feel right - for me, it wouldn't.

On the bright side, it looks like a good product. I like the fact that
it's apparently biamped and uses two drivers per side. Would be nice if
it had a FM radio too - does anyone know if it does?


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2008-08-06 20:58:37 UTC
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Does it have an FM tuner?
Are there external speaker outputs, or is one of the speakers
removable? This is nice for bedside applications where you put one
speaker on each bedside table.

It looks like a nice potential upgrade for our bedroom alarm
clock/stereo. That is a 12 year old JVC FS-1000 and the CD player is
on it's last legs. We also have a Squeezebox and good stereo in the
bedroom, but don't use it as an alarm clock because it doesn't have an
easy to find snooze button.


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2008-08-06 20:55:44 UTC
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HectorHughMunro;326809 Wrote:
> Would be nice if it had a FM radio too - does anyone know if it does?
Why would you need an FM radio? AFAIK all FM radio stations are
available through the internet and therefore (barring licensing issues)
via Squeezenetwork.

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HectorHughMunro
2008-08-06 21:06:48 UTC
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ModelCitizen;326811 Wrote:
> Why would you need an FM radio? AFAIK all FM radio stations are
> available through the internet and therefore (barring licensing issues)
> via Squeezenetwork.
>
> MC

Some of us have capped download limits. At the moment the best sound
for the BBC is still on FM though this may change. Internet radio in
the UK is still in development to some extent.


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ModelCitizen
2008-08-06 21:34:15 UTC
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HectorHughMunro;326817 Wrote:
> Some of us have capped download limits.
Ah, yes of course. This makes perfect sense. I think capped this idea
of capped bandwidth is spreading too. Soon I guess it'll be the main
model in the States (it's already the main model in the UK and took
hold very quickly).

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Paul Webster
2008-08-06 21:44:57 UTC
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Well done Slim.
I can imagine a lot of Christmas stockings will be bulging this year.


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2008-08-06 21:47:01 UTC
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I'm sure quite a few people here are bulging over the Boom, and it's not
their stockings!!!


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2008-08-07 02:52:35 UTC
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ModelCitizen;326834 Wrote:
> Ah, yes of course. This makes perfect sense. I think the idea of capped
> bandwidth and and charging per gb for excess used is spreading too.
> Soon I guess it'll be the main model in the States (it's already the
> main model in the UK and took hold very quickly).
>
> MC

Three cable markets have tried that already in the States. It caused
one to go under because somebody else was offering all you could eat so
everybody switched to them. The other two are still around (barely)
because they had to go back to AYCE at a lower price then they were
charging before the switch just to get half of their customers back.

We have always done things different over here. Just look at how the UK
does Cellular and land line phone calls to how its done here. Over here
both parties get charged for minutes used during a call. And All You
Can Eat is the American way. My Internet bill has gone down by six
dollars a month and my download speeds have gone from 2Mbps by 384Kbps
upload to 21Mbps by 2Mbps over the last three years (steps were 2Mbps
to 6 to 10 to 15 to 21Mbps).

The world is getting ready for Everywhere Video Conferencing and Phone
calls as well as On Demand TV and Movies all of which requires more
bandwidth. If anybody has any disposable income, check into a play on
bandwidth infastructure (a hint is both Corning and Cisco are trading
at a PE below 17, could be something to research there). AT&T is laying
fiber everywhere and the worlds largest OC is being run from Atlanta to
Washington DC to Baltimore to New York.

Of course most of this is just my opinion and YMMV. Currently the surf
is up and only getting higher over here.


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2008-08-07 03:04:52 UTC
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iPhone;326905 Wrote:
> My Internet bill has gone down by six dollars a month and my download
> speeds have gone from 2Mbps by 384Kbps upload to 21Mbps by 2Mbps over
> the last three years (steps were 2Mbps to 6 to 10 to 15 to 21Mbps).
Speed and caps are different issues. Yes speeds are increasing, they're
increasing everywhere. But caps are also coming, it's pretty much
guaranteed at this point. Cablevision already have "unspoken" caps
where they will silently slow you down if you use "too much" capacity,
without specifying what "too much" means. Sprint recently capped their
previously unlimited wireless data plans. Time Warner are trialling
capped access right now in Texas
(http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080602/tec_time_warner_cable_internet.html).
Comcast have also said they're looking at it. So far, as far as I know,
Verizon are the only major ISP to explicitly say they're not considering
caps. I know I'll be on FIOS as soon as Comcast try anything in my area!


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Peter
2008-08-07 05:27:43 UTC
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radish wrote:
> iPhone;326905 Wrote:
>
>> My Internet bill has gone down by six dollars a month and my download
>> speeds have gone from 2Mbps by 384Kbps upload to 21Mbps by 2Mbps over
>> the last three years (steps were 2Mbps to 6 to 10 to 15 to 21Mbps).
>>
> Speed and caps are different issues. Yes speeds are increasing, they're
> increasing everywhere. But caps are also coming, it's pretty much
> guaranteed at this point. Cablevision already have "unspoken" caps
> where they will silently slow you down if you use "too much" capacity,
> without specifying what "too much" means. Sprint recently capped their
> previously unlimited wireless data plans. Time Warner are trialling
> capped access right now in Texas
> (http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080602/tec_time_warner_cable_internet.html).
> Comcast have also said they're looking at it. So far, as far as I know,
> Verizon are the only major ISP to explicitly say they're not considering
> caps. I know I'll be on FIOS as soon as Comcast try anything in my area!
>

Interesting. In Holland all DSL providers started out with caps. Then
many of them switched to some vague 'Acceptable Use Policy' (good Dutch
term) and finally almost everyone seems to have dropped the bandwidth
limits. I doubt that they are going to bring them back.

Regards,
Peter
MeSue
2008-08-07 03:16:34 UTC
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iPhone;326905 Wrote:
> We have always done things different over here. Just look at how the UK
> does Cellular and land line phone calls to how its done here. Over here
> both parties get charged for minutes used during a call. And All You Can
> Eat is the American way. My Internet bill has gone down by six dollars a
> month and my download speeds have gone from 2Mbps by 384Kbps upload to
> 21Mbps by 2Mbps over the last three years (steps were 2Mbps to 6 to 10
> to 15 to 21Mbps).

That may be the American way in the big city, but it is quite a
different picture in rural America. I still had bandwidth caps and
pitiful satellite internet until about 15 months ago when we finally
got DSL in this little forest community. Thankfully, my current ISP
doesn't have caps, at least not yet. But all the satelite ISPs have
VERY restrictive bandwidth limits.


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Mitch Harding
2008-08-06 21:09:54 UTC
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This isn't a public forum, it is a privately hosted and moderated
forum -- I don't see where there are free speech issues. I can see
where Logitech would want to try and limit the dissemination of this
information. I don't think I'd feel wrong moderating my own forum in
a way that I felt appropriate for my business, particularly if that
forum was an extension of that business.

Anyway, I'm very much looking forward to this product!

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:51 PM, HectorHughMunro
<HectorHughMunro.3dqohn1218056101-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> There are free speech issues. If they want a forum to be taken
> seriously, it's a little high handed.
>
> The problem was a leak within their own network and the information
> went in to the public domain.
>
> Moderation IS appropriate when discussions are getting too heated or if
> things are being said that are untrue and create legal/moral exposures
> to maliciously disadvantage or victimise another party. Cutting out
> remarks for convenience is another issue and seems wrong to me. In
> these situations, the best way to judge the issue is to imagine doing
> it yourself and ask whether it would feel right - for me, it wouldn't.
iPhone
2008-08-07 02:10:49 UTC
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HectorHughMunro;326809 Wrote:
> There are free speech issues. If they want a forum to be taken
> seriously, it's a little high handed.
>
> The problem was a leak within their own network and the information
> went in to the public domain.
>
> Moderation IS appropriate when discussions are getting too heated or if
> things are being said that are untrue and create legal/moral exposures
> to maliciously disadvantage or victimise another party. Cutting out
> remarks for convenience is another issue and seems wrong to me. In
> these situations, the best way to judge the issue is to imagine doing
> it yourself and ask whether it would feel right - for me, it wouldn't.
>
> On the bright side, it looks like a good product. I like the fact that
> it's apparently biamped and uses two drivers per side. Would be nice if
> it had a FM radio too - does anyone know if it does?

First, don't think there is a radio because the other NMPs don't have
one and besides there is Internet Radio. Lobby your local favorite
station to start streaming.

Hector, There are no Free Speech issues. What do you think this is? The
High School Newspaper or maybe a radio talk show or a Blog?

I can tell you what it is. It is a Forum that is sponored by Slim
Devices/Logitech to which you signed up to AND agreed to follow and
abide by THEIR Rules. Let me say that again, in signing up, you agreed
to the rules. Roughly, rule one is they make the rules. Rule two is you
agree to abide by and follow the rules. All of which means they monitor
and edit what they feel they need to. I am glad they zap the SPAM the
second it hits the Forum. Most of the time when things get out of hand,
they just lock the Thread so that the fire ball does not get any larger
but it is still there for all to read no matter if it reflects poorly
or greatly on Squeezebox. I have never seen them to be heavy handed
(they have even unlocked some locked treads upon further reflection).
Protecting future products that press releases have not gone out on yet
is not heavy handed or sensorship. If anything it is a company
protecting itself so it WILL be around in the future to sponsor this
Forum and provide the level of service we all have come to expect.

If you think this is a free speech issue, go over to Apple and read the
long list of rules for their Forum. All posts that shine a dim or bad
light on Apple WILL be deleted. If you make a joke or sarcastic remark
about an Apple product or another Forum Member it will be deleted,
third offence, you will be deleted.

This Logitech/Slim Devices Forum is about as easy going and as Free
Speech as it gets to a limit that allows things to never get to out of
hand. There are some posts over on the Stereophile Forum that will make
your brain bleed. Again this is a Forum and not a Blog, there are rules
and Free Speech only to a point. George Carlin (if he were still alive)
could not post his famous 7 words on this Forum because bad manors and
inappropriate words at not allowed by the rules. So it follows if one
can't use those words then total Free Speech is really not in play.
Nuff said and typed.


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2008-08-07 05:31:26 UTC
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iPhone wrote:
> If you think this is a free speech issue, go over to Apple and read the
> long list of rules for their Forum. All posts that shine a dim or bad
> light on Apple WILL be deleted. If you make a joke or sarcastic remark
> about an Apple product or another Forum Member it will be deleted,
> third offence, you will be deleted.
>

Sure, but most people will agree that Apple is scum for doing this kind
of thing (and a lot more). Obviously, it's completely useless to try and
suppress this kind of thing. It only makes it more interesting for
newssites and blogs. I'm not totally convinced this is such a bad way to
launch things. People are more interested in spreading secrets than
official press releases.

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Peter
Kim.T
2008-08-07 06:16:00 UTC
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Back to the topic : Boom

Hmmm, it's a good start. But as mentioned it could use batteries (but
we have seen various problems with the controller and power save that
don't have to be adressed if the player have to be connected to power).

Next it stille req. a server where the music is stored (could probably
be connected to SqueezeNetwork, MP3Locker....). But the best thing
would be that music could be played from internal HDD/USB without a
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kdf
2008-08-07 06:33:29 UTC
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On 6-Aug-08, at 11:16 PM, Kim.T wrote:
> But the best thing
> would be that music could be played from internal HDD/USB without a
> server.


and how would that be different from the other Logitech offerings in
the way of ipod docks?

-kdf
Kim.T
2008-08-07 07:00:49 UTC
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kdf;326937 Wrote:
> On 6-Aug-08, at 11:16 PM, Kim.T wrote:
> > But the best thing
> > would be that music could be played from internal HDD/USB without a
> > server.
>
>
> and how would that be different from the other Logitech offerings in
>
> the way of ipod docks?
>
> -kdf

I don't know - I don't own a ipod and I'm not in the market for a ipod
nor a iPod dock, I want i Squeezebox Boom with an USB connector that
can play musik from both the server, online and from internat/external
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Sike
2008-08-07 07:40:16 UTC
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I hope the screen hat the same amount of pixels. I also hope that that
the classic remote works with it too (Can't think why it shouldnt)

Batteries would of been really cool. As someone noted before, I have a
Tivoli iPal and use it every day.

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2008-08-07 10:46:12 UTC
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I don't think the lack of batteries or ability to play locally attached
music is an issue with the Boom, as that's not it's intended role. It
looks like a very nice bedside alarm clock (better be durable!!!) or a
nice all in one unit for casual listening. My parents have an SB3 that
is setup in their kitchen with (ironically) a leftover set of Logitech
computer speakers. The Boom will take away one more power cord and the
mess of audio cabled between the speakers and SB3.

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Peter
2008-08-07 10:54:17 UTC
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4mula1 wrote:
> I don't think the lack of batteries or ability to play locally attached
> music is an issue with the Boom, as that's not it's intended role. It
> looks like a very nice bedside alarm clock (better be durable!!!) or a
> nice all in one unit for casual listening. My parents have an SB3 that
> is setup in their kitchen with (ironically) a leftover set of Logitech
> computer speakers. The Boom will take away one more power cord and the
> mess of audio cabled between the speakers and SB3.
>

Being able to take the thing outside without a power cord would be nice
though, although you're already limited by the necessity of a wifi
connection. OTOH, perhaps the thing didn't run very long on batteries
with the VFD and the Wifi radio and that's another reason why they left
them out.

Nice addition to the system and another sign that SD listens to their users.

Regards,
Peter
autopilot
2008-08-07 13:02:44 UTC
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What on earth are people talking about batteries for?

What battery technology do you know that can continuously power an good
amp, wireless connection and a VFD screen for any -worthwhile- amount of
time? Where you hoping for some massive, heavy and expensive brick that
could maybe muster 3 hours?
And where do you have a wireless network coverage at home, but no power
outlets (albeit requiring an extension lead)? The only place for me
would be the massive garden we have when i would occasionally need to
real out an cable. Seeing as our BBQ's invariably turn into all night
drinking sessions, no battery could satisfy us.

Well done not putting a battery in Slim Devices. For the vast majority
of customers it's a better product for it IMO - it's an all in one home
Squeezebox system, not a portable system (plenty already on a saturated
market anyway). Instead of a small few people complaining it as no
battery, you would have a huge amount of people complaining it had a
terrible battery and was too heavy etc.


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m1abrams
2008-08-07 13:32:30 UTC
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autopilot;327048 Wrote:
> What on earth are people talking about batteries for?
>
> What battery technology do you know that can continuously power an good
> amp, wireless connection and a VFD screen for any -worthwhile- amount of
> time? Where you hoping for some massive, heavy and expensive brick that
> could maybe muster 3 hours?
> And where do you have a wireless network coverage at home, but no power
> outlets (albeit requiring an extension lead)? The only place for me
> would be the massive garden we have when i would occasionally need to
> real out an cable. Seeing as our BBQ's invariably turn into all night
> drinking sessions, no battery could satisfy us.
>
> Well done not putting a battery in Slim Devices. For the vast majority
> of customers it's a better product for it IMO - it's an all in one home
> Squeezebox system, not a portable system or some kind of iPod dock
> (plenty already on a saturated market anyway). Good move - instead of a
> small few people complaining it has no battery, you would have a huge
> amount of people complaining it had a terrible battery and was too
> big/heavy.

Yeah when I saw it had a VFD I gave up on battery, just wishful
thinking. While VFD is great for display it is not so nice on power.
If you could manage the VFD power requirements via auto-off quickly
cause in this environment the display is not so important. Then the
wifi and an efficient amp cause really does this type of device need a
high-end power hungry amp, heck I would have been happier if they went
the Tivilo(sp?) approach and did a mono speaker with the option to add
a speaker, cause stereo on 2 speakers 6inches apart really does not
work so well. So now, reduce the amp load and display load you just
have the wireless for big draws. If you use D cell batteries you
probably could get some decent play times.
Course like you said, how many times would you really need batteries.
Only time I can think is on the Deck, or while I am washing the car.
Course I can take the extra time to grab power cord, but not having to
do that would make it more likely the wife would grab it.


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signor_rossi
2008-08-07 13:38:56 UTC
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autopilot;327048 Wrote:
> What on earth are people talking about batteries for?
>
> What battery technology do you know that can continuously power an good
> amp, wireless connection and a VFD screen for any -worthwhile- amount of
> time? Where you hoping for some massive, heavy and expensive brick that
> could maybe muster 3 hours?
> And where do you have a wireless network coverage at home, but no power
> outlets (albeit requiring an extension lead)? The only place for me
> would be the massive garden we have when i would occasionally need to
> real out an cable. Seeing as our BBQ's invariably turn into all night
> drinking sessions, no battery could satisfy us.
>
> Well done not putting a battery in Slim Devices. For the vast majority
> of customers it's a better product for it IMO - it's an all in one home
> Squeezebox system, not a portable system or some kind of iPod dock
> (plenty already on a saturated market anyway). Good move - instead of a
> small few people complaining it has no battery, you would have a huge
> amount of people complaining it had a terrible battery and was too
> big/heavy.

You got the point exactly, but nobody in this thread here was really
complaining. ;)
>From the pictures the form factor IMO seems exactly right and it is a
nice complementary and standalone product, can't wait to hear it.

Bye, signorRossi.


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2008-08-07 14:34:47 UTC
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I believe at last we have an SD product that could -genuinely- be sold
at PC World (or Best Buy, whatever) without any niggling guilt of
having sold something beyond the buyer's technical capability. What I
mean is, by lay people who can just take it home and plug it in. *

It's an internet clock radio, first and foremost. But forget your
Roberts equivilents, this can also be used with Pandora, Rhapsody and
LastFM. That's the USP.

And There's More! If you want to access your own digital music
collection, just install this free software onto your PC and away you
go!

(Oh, and it's good for us too! Squeeze in the garden! Woohoo!)

* Forget the usual Sonos arguments of "It has to connect to you wifi,
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Michaelwagner
2008-08-08 23:16:53 UTC
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simbo;327089 Wrote:
> I believe at last we have an SD product that could -genuinely- be sold
> at PC World (or Best Buy, whatever) without any niggling guilt of
> having sold something beyond the buyer's technical capability.

Funny you should mention that. Today I opened the tigerdirect catalogue
that came in the mail, and you can now buy a Duet from tigerdirect, in
store or online.


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2008-08-09 15:54:18 UTC
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With battery-backed alarm settings one can assume that the alarm times
are likely not saved to the server. At least not solely saved to the
server.

Which brings me to... If the server isn't active or the network is not
accessible (for whatever reason(s)), does the Boom offer any type of
audible alarm fallback?

My personal choice would be to allow saving one or more songs into some
on-board flash storage as a backup alarm sound when the Boom, for
whatever reason, cannot connect to your preferred alarm source (Squeeze
Center or Squeeze Network).

Keeping fingers crossed for this feature. It would stink to miss an
alarm (and wake-up) because your network connection happened to be down
one day.


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2008-08-09 15:58:55 UTC
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The manual says it will have a backup alarm tone, which indicates to me
that it won't be music. The Boom will be a little less slim in that it
can manage it's own time as well as alarm. Hopefully it can use a
standard alarm tone and when you hit snooze the music kicks in. Some
of my music certainly won't wake me up!!!


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bhaagensen
2008-08-07 15:48:36 UTC
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4mula1;327005 Wrote:
> I don't think the lack of batteries or ability to play locally attached
> music is an issue with the Boom, as that's not it's intended role.
>

Of course, if there are no batteries in it, then its not intended to be
used as if it had :) For me the point is that it appears to have a
format which could make it suitable for that kind of use. But as others
have said, it might not be feasible to power the thing on batteries
without sacrificing sound-quality while at the same time keeping it
portable. So I guess we'll just have to wait for this coldfusion
technology to stabilise... ALOT.

>
> Being able to take the thing outside without a power cord would be
> nice
> though, although you're already limited by the necessity of a wifi
> connection.
>

The evolution in tele-technology obsoletes that argument. My, and many
other common mobiles, can function as a wireless accesspoint using
hsdpa to pull down data. That's sufficient for even high bitrate mp3.
So for me, batteries could have added significant realworld value to
the Boom.


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2008-08-07 16:17:51 UTC
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bhaagensen;327108 Wrote:
> The evolution in tele-technology obsoletes that argument. My, and many
> other common mobiles, can function as a wireless accesspoint using
> hsdpa to pull down data. That's sufficient for even high bitrate mp3.
> So for me, batteries could have added significant realworld value to
> the Boom.
What you want is SqueezePlay For Mobiles (TM), with stereo Bluetooth
(A2DP) to whatever speakers you like. SlimDevices would recommend the
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bhaagensen
2008-08-07 16:51:05 UTC
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simbo;327122 Wrote:
> What you want is SqueezePlay For Mobiles (TM), with stereo Bluetooth
> (A2DP) to whatever speakers you like. SlimDevices would recommend the
> Logitech PureFi-Mobile of course.


Already have that. That is, the Bluetooth headset. But I agree there
certainly are many possibilities and when/if SPFM comes, the
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bhaagensen;327108 Wrote:
>
> The evolution in tele-technology obsoletes that argument. My, and many
> other common mobiles, can function as a wireless accesspoint using
> hsdpa to pull down data. That's sufficient for even high bitrate mp3.
> So for me, batteries could have added significant realworld value to
> the Boom.

Yeah, but how long is the battery life of your mobile while using hsdpa
to pull down data and at the same time acting as a wifi access point?

Edit: The Slimdevices guys are very good at knowing what is currently
feasible, they proved that with the SBs and the Duet and now with the
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autopilot
2008-08-07 17:17:36 UTC
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Well when the Controllers Audio Playback is implemented (hopefully
SC7.3) then that with some powered portable speakers (like the M28's or
something) will help bridge the gap for those who dont want to be
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2008-08-07 17:30:50 UTC
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autopilot;327143 Wrote:
> Well when the Controllers Audio Playback is implemented (hopefully
> SC7.3) then that with some powered portable speakers (like the M28's or
> something) will help bridge the gap for those who dont want to be
> tethered to a power socket.

Yeah, but I'm curious whether the SBC battery life will be anything
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2008-08-07 18:55:21 UTC
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Fletch;327149 Wrote:
> Yeah, but I'm curious whether the SBC battery life will be anything
> reasonable during constant audio playback.

Me too, probably not great, but it will be a free upgrade and the
screen can be turned off. Wont be powering an AMP/speakers either. We
will see, but i can see my getting a Boom.


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2008-08-07 19:02:27 UTC
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autopilot;327182 Wrote:
> Me too, probably not great, but it will be a free upgrade and the screen
> can be turned off. Wont be powering an AMP/speakers either. We will see,
> but i can see my getting a Boom.

OT: isn't there an SD slot on the controller? Sadly I do not own one
yet :(.

If it has an SD slot and they add the audio playback, wonder how much
more it would be to have local playback ;). My only issue with
convergence devices like that though is I want my remote in the room I
use it most in, not in my wifes pocket listening to tunes in the
garden! Which would mean I would have to buy more of them. Oh wait, I
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bhaagensen
2008-08-07 21:43:10 UTC
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signor_rossi;327138 Wrote:
> Yeah, but how long is the battery life of your mobile while using hsdpa
> to pull down data and at the same time acting as a wifi access point?
>
> Edit: The Slimdevices guys are very good at knowing what is currently
> feasible, they proved that with the SBs and the Duet and now with the
> boombox.

To be honest, I'm not sure, but probably not more than a few hours. I
get something like that when streaming over wireless into a bluetooth
headset. I do have an extra battery though, so in could be useful.

About the feasability argument. Sure such a feature would be on the
edge. But IMHO not much more than many of the other SD products at the
time they where introduced. They have been driving the adoption of
music streaming, and so could a the requested features.


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ralphpnj
2008-08-08 08:25:13 UTC
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Okay, so when this SlimBoom finally hits the market Logitech/Slim
Devices will have shown that they can expand the market for the music
streaming devices. Now they have to move forward with some more
innovative products. I've already suggested in another thread that Slim
Devices should partner with one of the established audio companies, such
as Sony, Marantz, etc., and produce an A/V receiver with a built-in
SqueezeBox Receiver. SqeezeNetwork and SqueezeCenter can then be used
to provide both 2 channel and mutli-channel audio. Yes, SqueezeCenter
can stream 5.1 channel encoded digital audio signals provided that the
digital output is fed into a DAC capable of decoding the 5.1 channel
signal, and almost all A/V receivers have this ability. Just some
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2008-08-08 11:21:08 UTC
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Does anyone have any idea of when the Boom is expected to be released? I
have a friend who is itching to buy one of these.

Cheers,
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2008-08-08 12:10:25 UTC
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menno;327391 Wrote:
> Does anyone have any idea of when the Boom is expected to be released? I
> have a friend who is itching to buy one of these.
>
> Cheers,
> Menno

It has not even been officially announced yet! They people in the know
are keeping quiet, they might even be rethink release dates now the
cats out the bag. But i would guess maybe end of next month (sept).
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2008-08-08 15:49:38 UTC
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menno wrote:
> Does anyone have any idea of when the Boom is expected to be released? I
> have a friend who is itching to buy one of these.

Slim and Logitech has a long established policy of never talking about
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Milhouse
2008-08-08 13:27:37 UTC
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ralphpnj;327338 Wrote:
> I've already suggested in another thread that Slim Devices should
> partner with one of the established audio companies, such as Sony,
> Marantz, etc., and produce an A/V receiver with a built-in SqueezeBox
> Receiver. SqeezeNetwork and SqueezeCenter can then be used to provide
> both 2 channel and mutli-channel audio. Yes, SqueezeCenter can stream
> 5.1 channel encoded digital audio signals provided that the digital
> output is fed into a DAC capable of decoding the 5.1 channel signal,
> and almost all A/V receivers have this ability. Just some additional
> food for thought.

A very good idea - my Onkyo TX-NR905 has a built-in ethernet (cable)
based music streamer and it's *rubbish* for two reasons: 1) I need to
switch on my TV to choose tracks and 2) the UI is incredibly clunky.
If, as you suggest, it were based on Receiver + Controller technology
then Onkyo would be on to a sure fire winner. Though the Controller
would need to be more versatile, taking on the role of a regular IR
remote control too in order to keep costs down, something Logitech and
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2008-08-08 13:44:10 UTC
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Milhouse;327426 Wrote:
> A very good idea - my Onkyo TX-NR905 has a built-in ethernet (cable)
> based music streamer and it's *rubbish* for two reasons: 1) I need to
> switch on my TV to choose tracks and 2) the UI is incredibly clunky.
> If, as you suggest, it were based on Receiver + Controller technology
> then Onkyo would be on to a sure fire winner. Though the Controller
> would need to be more versatile, taking on the role of a regular IR
> remote control too in order to keep costs down, something Logitech and
> their Harmony division could create I'm sure.

Your idea about the Controller being made for versatile in order to be
more useful when operating a combination A/V receiver and SqueezeBox is
a good one. I'm was also thinking that many, if not all, A/V receivers
already have some kind of built in display and therefore the display
could be modified to work in a similar manner to the SqueezeBox Classic
(I believe that's what a "regular" SqueezeBox is called these days) and
the A/V receiver's IR remote would also need to be modified to function
as a normal SqueezeBox remote. In any event, either method for
controlling the unit (Wi-Fi based Controller or IR remote) is very
doable, especially considering Logitech's experience with universal
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2008-08-08 14:06:48 UTC
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The Squeezebox Controller already has an inactive IR emitter next to the
headphone socket. I hope the function one day gets made use of, but i
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2008-08-08 14:14:50 UTC
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autopilot;327438 Wrote:
> The Squeezebox Controller already has an inactive IR emitter next to the
> headphone socket. I hope the function one day gets made use of, but i
> have not seen or heard of any development sadly.

With only a limited number of hard buttons and no touchscreen on the
Controller it becomes somewhat impractical to control anything but the
most basic device, which automatically rules out pretty much any AV amp
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2008-08-08 14:18:53 UTC
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>
> The Squeezebox Controller already has an inactive IR emitter next to
> the headphone socket. I hope the function one day gets made use of, but
> i have not seen or heard of any development sadly.
>

Works as a SB remote emulator is accessible through

Settings/Advanced/Factory Test/Infrared


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2008-08-08 14:34:06 UTC
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milhouse Wrote:
>
> With only a limited number of hard buttons and no touchscreen on the
> Controller it becomes somewhat impractical to control anything but the
> most basic device, which automatically rules out pretty much any AV amp
> these days!
>

Really, what do you want to do? All most people need is a power toggle,
input selection and volume. I only want to listen to my Squeezebox's,
not control my whole home cinema - i have a Harmony One for that.

bpa;327441 Wrote:
> Works as a SB remote emulator is accessible through
>
> Settings/Advanced/Factory Test/Infrared

Yeah seen that when it was first added. Good proof of concept though,
no use for it though. What we want is a programmable version to power
toggle amps etc.

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Milhouse;327440 Wrote:
> With only a limited number of hard buttons and no touchscreen on the
> Controller it becomes somewhat impractical to control anything but the
> most basic device, which automatically rules out pretty much any AV amp
> these days!

I want to see the Controller merged with a Harmony 1000. Larger screen
for larger artwork, easier to read lists, need for ONLY one remote for
everything! With the touch screen, we could edit playlists right on the
SBC1000 by dragging and dropping them. WiFi control with total IR
control, could anything really be better? The increased price is
justified because it is now replacing two devices as well as becoming a
universal remote to replace all the other remotes.

I just woke up, did I type something? I think I was dreaming about
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2008-08-08 15:51:35 UTC
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iPhone;327459 Wrote:
> I want to see the Controller merged with a Harmony 1000. Larger screen
> for larger artwork, easier to read lists, need for ONLY one remote for
> everything! With the touch screen, we could edit playlists right on the
> SBC1000 by dragging and dropping them. WiFi control with total IR
> control, could anything really be better? The increased price is
> justified because it is now replacing two devices as well as becoming a
> universal remote to replace all the other remotes.
>
I would buy it straight away, the main reason I'm still using the SB3
instead of the Duet in the living room is that the Controller isn't
able to control the rest the devices in the living room. I think the
Controller can grow to be able to handle a music listening room, but it
will never work as the single remote in the living room.

There is so much potential in this product family since the Logitech
merge, so it's just a matter for Logitech to choose which area to
target first.

Squeeze Harmony = Harmony 1000 with touch screen and Wifi access and
integrated controller software
Squeeze Portable = Controller with touch screen and local storage to
make it possible to take the music with you, think iPhone with
SqueezeCenter integration.
Squeeze PictureFrame = Picture frame which basically is just a display
(maybe with a touch screen) that is a complement to the receiver in the
living room and makes it possible for everyone to see what is playing.
Squeeze Server = Dedicated server hardware with pre-installed
SqueezeCenter and faster processor than existing NAS boxes but lower
power consumption than most standard computers.
Squeeze Mediacenter = Dedicated server hardware with pre-installed
SqueezeCenter and MythTV software, designed to be the central media
center in your home.

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2008-08-08 20:39:53 UTC
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erland;327467 Wrote:
>
> Squeeze PictureFrame = Picture frame which basically is just a display
> (maybe with a touch screen) that is a complement to the receiver in the
> living room and makes it possible for everyone to see what is playing.

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As far as names go: how about **Squeezeblaster** :o)


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I've already got a squeezeblaster. :)

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> As far as names go: how about **Squeezeblaster** :o)
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pichonCalavera
2008-08-08 22:47:26 UTC
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Looks very interesting, I already have a SB3, and what I like about this
one are the front controls. And like somebody said... Boom sounds dumb.

I think this would cost more than $300 isn't?, since it looks like a
SB3 (which now costs $300) plus front controls and some speakers.


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*normalize* (replaygain/foobar2000) > *albumart* (www) > *transport*
(winscp) > *store* (debian) > *rescan* (squeezecenter) > *play*
(squeezebox) > *preamplify* (zpre2) > *amplify* (zampv3) > *listen*
(axiomm2) > *scrooble* (last.fm) > *enjoy* (me :)
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Milhouse
2008-08-08 16:36:13 UTC
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iPhone;327459 Wrote:
> WiFi control with total IR control, could anything really be better?

You forgot Bluetooth for the PS3.... :)

iPhone;327459 Wrote:
> The increased price is justified because it is now replacing two devices
> as well as becoming a universal remote to replace all the other
> remotes.
>

I'd buy it!


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Squid
2008-08-08 14:05:47 UTC
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BTW, am I the only one who thinks the name 'Boom' is a bit ridiculous ?
I'd never call it like that, even not if it were a boombox kind of
thing (which it clearly is not).
I sure hope they come up with a different/decent name upon release.


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Ron Thigpen
2008-08-08 17:01:34 UTC
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That struck me as well. This is more of a "Table Radio" type of product.

Squid wrote:
> BTW, am I the only one who thinks the name 'Boom' is a bit ridiculous ?
> I'd never call it like that, even not if it were a boombox kind of
> thing (which it clearly is not).
> I sure hope they come up with a different/decent name upon release.
>
>
Chris Laplante
2008-08-08 17:05:22 UTC
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People on the list have been asking for a "Boombox" for years, I think
they just took the name that their public gave it.

-Chris


On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Ron Thigpen <ron-H7fe4ZTHw8V8UrSeD/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> That struck me as well. This is more of a "Table Radio" type of product.
>
> Squid wrote:
>> BTW, am I the only one who thinks the name 'Boom' is a bit ridiculous ?
>> I'd never call it like that, even not if it were a boombox kind of
>> thing (which it clearly is not).
>> I sure hope they come up with a different/decent name upon release.
>>
>>
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Nostromo
2008-08-08 17:22:03 UTC
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They should call it either the Ghetto Blaster, the Jambox or the Wogga
box ;-)


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Pale Blue Ego
2008-08-08 18:06:02 UTC
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This looks like a nice edition to the family. I'm hoping the
AudioEngine people worked on the amp/speaker design. If so, the Boom
will sound excellent.


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Espen
2008-08-06 20:50:12 UTC
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HectorHughMunro;326749 Wrote:
> Is that really ethical to remove a thread for that reason?

I do not think so. The company want as much press articles as possible
when they decide to announce the product so they wait for the right
moment. There are competitors in the marked and so on. Maybe IFA in
Berlin later this month is the target for the announcement. Anyway,
good to know it is coming and a small leak is probably not so bad after
all.


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variable
2008-08-06 14:48:16 UTC
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http://www.wifisound.nl/catalog/logitechsqueezeboxboom-p-445.html
addt'l specs

>From the Squeezebox family of products comes Logitech® Squeezebox™
Boom: the all-in-one network music player that combines award-winning
Squeezebox functionality with an integrated amplifier and speakers to
deliver your digital music to any room in your home. All in a compact
size. Just plug it in, follow the network configuration wizard and
enjoy the music and content you love, with crystal-clear sound.
Features include true 802.11g wireless networking, auto-dimming
display, 7-day alarm clock with backup power and remote control.
Supports most digital music formats.

• 1.9-cm (3/4-inch) high-definition, soft-dome tweeters and 7.6-cm
(3-inch)
high-power, long-throw woofers
• Bi-amplified design with high-performance signal processor,
class D amplifier and digital crossover
• Stereo XL™ technology widens the sound stage beyond
the physical boundaries of the speaker
• 6-button presets allow one-touch access to favourite radio stations
and playlists
• 7-day alarm clock
• Infrared remote control
• Bright, high-contrast VFD display with ambient light sensor and
automatic dimming
• Built-in 802.11g wireless with dual internal antennas
• 10/100Base-T Ethernet port
• Line-in via 3.5 mm stereo jack
• Headphone/Subwoofer out via 3.5 mm connector
• Plays MP3, AAC, WMA, Ogg, FLAC, Apple lossless, WMA lossless,
WAV, and AIFF music files
• Connects to your home network to access music stored on your
computer
via SqueezeCenter or Internet radio, and music services via
SqueezeNetwork™


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